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Neon_WA
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| leoinker wrote: | oh duh. The misprinted SY016 threw me off.
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The 6 in SY016 is poorly engraved.. but the processor is genuine
from around 1997 all 6s on die caps of ceramic Pentiums started looking like b's
I would interested if you have any spare of this date or later 
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | leoinker wrote: | oh duh. The misprinted SY016 threw me off.
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The 6 in SY016 is poorly engraved.. but the processor is genuine
from around 1997 all 6s on die caps of ceramic Pentiums started looking like b's
I would interested if you have any spare of this date or later |
Wow, the one time I'm sure to have identified a fake it actually isn't  |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| magictom wrote: | | Wow, the one time I'm sure to have identified a fake it actually isn't |
Very understandable.. but I have a large database of Pentiums along the time-line making it easier.
While most late production ceramic Pentiums were made in the Philippines the same strange 6s was also used in other plants.
The same character is used for 6s & 9s
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leoinker
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | I would interested if you have any spare of this date or later |
Got anything to trade? - maybe i486 SX? - Or any other common chips for that matter... |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| leoinker wrote: | | Got anything to trade? - maybe i486 SX? |
What speed SX are you chasing?
I should have spares of most speeds
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leoinker
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I'm not chasing any, because I'm just getting started. - So any would work at this point.- but would prefer not to get duplicates in whatever trade we might work out.
I started my collecting with P1s. And I have lots of duplicates of most commons, and some duplicates of uncommons. I also have lots of common P3s and P4s.
If you have any holes in your commons collection, just let me know what you need and I will check my stash.
I will get a pic of my SY016s soon. |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| leoinker wrote: | | And I have lots of duplicates of most commons |
I also collect plants & dates in P1s so even common can be good
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leoinker
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| Shipping from the land of oz to the US might be a killer. Any idea what those costs would be? |
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Neon_WA
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that's something I have learnt to live with.. costs me double of what it is going the other way.
also packages need to be under 500gm to so I dont have to pay the $8 security fee for mail going to the US.
so I either keep packages under 500gm or make them over 2kg
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gshv
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | The 6 in SY016 is poorly engraved.. but the processor is genuine |
Leave and learn, I guess... It's surprising to see such poor markings on genuine parts.
Gennadiy |
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Neon_WA
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| gshv wrote: | | Leave and learn, I guess... It's surprising to see such poor markings on genuine parts. |
Intel got quite slack with late production ceramic parts for embedded use.
In the final year or 2 of production, Intel even used iMPP marked die caps on some non mobile processors.
I guess just to use them up and seeing they werent being used in retail market it wasn't an issue
Bottom line.. any ceramic P1 from late 1998 onwards, the standard rule book for picking fakes is thrown out
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Robev
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | gshv wrote: | | Leave and learn, I guess... It's surprising to see such poor markings on genuine parts. |
Intel got quite slack with late production ceramic parts for embedded use.
In the final year or 2 of production, Intel even used iMPP marked die caps on some non mobile processors.
I guess just to use them up and seeing they werent being used in retail market it wasn't an issue
Bottom line.. any ceramic P1 from late 1998 onwards, the standard rule book for picking fakes is thrown out |
If you look here http://vintagecomputerbits.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=sy016&x=13&y=14
you will see P166 manufactured in Philipines, Malaysia & USA all marked with the same 1bb (166) type face on the undersides......Cheers
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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bit of free advertising mate 
guessing in A4 & Malay plants only one of the production lines marked 1bb instead of 166 as for those plants you find both
Not sure if I have seen a Phil marked 166
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The point I was trying to make was that the A4 was manufactured in 1996 so your point about the 1998 seems to be a bit erroneous......Cheers
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I guessed thats what you were trying to do.. just stirring you up seeing your a kiwi
I have a database which I'm trying to log variations and from 1998 it was common. Previous to that gets a bit sketchy especially as most people dont show pics of the bottom
Back to stirring u up... guess you have seen this one 
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