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BabyD49683
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: Celeron vs PIII |
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| I have an HP pavilion w/ a socket 370 1.3Ghz Celeron. Assumimg price is no object, how will a PIII 1.4Ghz cpu compare. And w/ the motherboard being an OEM, is this swap possible? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| A pIII 1.4 ghz chip is faster than a celeron 1.3 ghz chip. but that pIII wouldnt be faster than an equivalent p4 processor |
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Marcin
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| amd64 wrote: | | A pIII 1.4 ghz chip is faster than a celeron 1.3 ghz chip. but that pIII wouldnt be faster than an equivalent p4 processor |
You are in wrong. PIII 1,4 GHz is more more faster than P IV 1,4 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | A pIII 1.4 ghz chip is faster than a celeron 1.3 ghz chip. but that pIII wouldnt be faster than an equivalent p4 processor |
Thats wrong! I'm using two PIII-S 1.4 GHZ, and my System is faster like a P4 2GHZ. I see this when i ripp DVDs. My friend need 3 more houers to rip a 120min DVD... and he has a 2GHZ P4.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Hmm, i just figured an "equivalent p4 processor" as in same exact amount of L2 cache, clock speed ect. would be "marginaly" faster in what i believe i may have seen in various comparison tests at tech sights like "toms hardware" ect. but i may have been mistakin. |
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Marcin
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| amd64 wrote: | | Hmm, i just figured an "equivalent p4 processor" as in same exact amount of L2 cache, clock speed ect. would be "marginaly" faster in what i believe i may have seen in various comparison tests at tech sights like "toms hardware" ect. but i may have been mistakin. |
Please give me a link to Toms Hardware test. I would like to see this article 
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn, no wonder AMD blows intel out of the water time and time again. its been a while since i seen any comparison with p4 1.4's (couple years maybe?) to anything else thats for sure. but i sure know what the comparison's say today lol.. |
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Pentium III 1.4 Tualatin is faster than Pentium IV 1.7 ! It is on 133 FSB. Celeron is slower because FSB is 100. Benchmark results in table.
| amd64 wrote: | | A pIII 1.4 ghz chip is faster than a celeron 1.3 ghz chip. but that pIII wouldnt be faster than an equivalent p4 processor |
Seriously, I can't believe no one does any research The above is completely wrong and/or has very little to do with it.
If you look closely into the PIII architecture as compared to a P4, you'll realize that those P3 tualatins are doing 9 operations per cycle as opposed to the P4's 6 operations per cycle, thus making the tualatin's mhz "stronger".
Why do you think AMD cpu's are slower in mhz but are equal to P4 in performance even though they exceed AMD speeds by 1 GHz or more? Easy: AMD used a very similar architecture to the P3 a while back, and are still using it today (Ofcourse improved upon), bringing it back to the whole 9 op/s vs 6 op/s thing.
Anyway it won't matter, amd is running out of ideas and with the new 65nm cpus coming in on around Christmas, that will give amd a hard time getting their act together. *Yeaahhhh intel all the way!!!!* |
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BabyD49683
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| Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, so my second question is, can a 1.3Ghz Celeron and a 1.4 Ghz PIII cpu swap be done on an HP OEM motherboard? It has 2 rows of jumpers below the cpu but, no jumpers are in place: thats it, no switches. |
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