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1947transistor2012
Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: 16pin gold Flat pack ID help TA585 8221 1960's? |
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Hello again
I need Help Id'ing a part, unsure of the Mfr or function of part, possibly Aerospace?
TA series Mfr?
Part reads TA585 82 21
underneath are a set of 4 digit numbers that match that back of the gold Qfp. these 4 digit numbers change in example ,0402,0302, 0214,0318,0417..etc..etc..
Definitley not date codes or cap sizes all parts look the same
parts are stamped in blue ink and are stored in blue antistatic cases that were common in the early 60's.
I can try posting a pic...
I thought maybe Teledyne they have a TAG series for High Power Amplifiers.
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1947transistor2012
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Part: TA585 8221 Mfr: ?
White ceramic gold 16pin gold QFP.
blue ink- packaging looks to be from 60's
Brian. |
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1947transistor2012
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| front of TA585 82 21 |
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chip68

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 1024 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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"TA" is a common Toshiba prefix. A photo would definitely help.
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1947transistor2012
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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oops....lol, I thought I posted pics of this chip.
Brian.
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debs3759

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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You posted it while chips68 was typing  _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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1947transistor2012
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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After searching on the internet and books, etc..
my assumption maybe Ti?
later 60's earlier 70's possibly?
Ti used blue ink on Aerospace chips and the packaging is common in the 60's... no Logo visable.
its quite possible alot of other Mfrs used blue ink on gold flat packs in the 60's-70's as well.
any thoughts?
Thanks again Brian.
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1947transistor2012
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hello DEBS3759,
last time I spoke to you was in 2005-6
did you ever receive your free chips? ...lol.
Hope all is well.
Brian.
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debs3759

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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That was so long ago that I don't remember
I see your C4004 grey trace is breaking records on eBay  _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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chip68

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| 1947transistor2012 wrote: | | Ti used blue ink on Aerospace chips and the packaging is common in the 60's... no Logo visable. |
Doesn't really look like TI to me... The font isn't right, the prefix isn't one they ever used, and TI flat packs from the 1960s definitely sported their Texas logo.
I still think it's Toshiba, probably more like mid-'70s to early '80s. (Flat packs are still used in certain applications to this day, so that's not an accurate indicator of age.)
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magictom

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| chip68 wrote: | | 1947transistor2012 wrote: | | Ti used blue ink on Aerospace chips and the packaging is common in the 60's... no Logo visable. |
Doesn't really look like TI to me... The font isn't right, the prefix isn't one they ever used, and TI flat packs from the 1960s definitely sported their Texas logo.
I still think it's Toshiba, probably more like mid-'70s to early '80s. (Flat packs are still used in certain applications to this day, so that's not an accurate indicator of age.)
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I agree, and I've never seen this style of package (with the leads coming out at the bottom) on any TI chip. |
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DaveC
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Having worked at CTS Micro in the early 70s, I think you might be looking at some sort of resistor network, probably thin film used for A/D ladder conversion. Have you used a ohm meter to check out readings from pin to pin. A/D used an R 2R 4R etc. if I remember correctly. The blue numbers might be individual device numbers for quality control and tracking. PMI/Precision Monolithics, Inc. I think used this kind of packaging. I've got their data sheets from that period and could check if you'd like. A 16 pin package like that could have 8 bits with the R 2R format which was a pretty difficult thing to achieve back then...10, 12, & 16 bits would be a major feat that might explain the expensive packaging. |
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