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Brian
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 Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: CPU upgrade |
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Hi, I have been reading various articles in here, all it has achieved is to further my insecurity in decision making. So it is time to ask to more knowledgeable people.
I have purchased a Dell XPS17 L720x new (for the right price) it has an Intel i5-2410M (2.3Ghz, Quad-Core, 3MB cache)
a) I would like to upgrade this CPU.
b) Primary use for home movie editing.
c) Is an upgrade practical / beneficial / effective. |
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I've been looking around the forum & the data base, trying to find my answers. I am as green as grass in most aspects 
I have found this link ......... 2410M cant post sorry
Excuse my ignorance, please could some one please explain to me what BGA & PGA mean
I understand that more watts = more heat & in a confined space it is an issue, maybe I could get a more efficient fan, I already have a cooling mat.
A Zalman ZM-NC3000U Ultimate 17 inch.
Any assistance and information is very much appreciated, thanks |
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BGA - Ball Grid Array - soldered to motherboard
PGA - Pin Grid Array - put into socket
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gshv
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BGA processors cannot be upgraded. PGA versions are upgradeable. You may want to open your notebook to verify what kind of package you have. If the CPU sits in a socket then it's a PGA package. If you have i5-2410M in the PGA package then there is a good chance that you can upgrade it to Core i7-2640M. It will boost performance by 20% - 25% at max, so I'm not sure if it's worth it. You may be able to upgrade to quad-core i7-27x0QM/i7-28x0QM. Try to find out what Intel chipset you have. Intel QS67 Express doesn't officially support quad-cores. HM65, HM67 and QM67 chipsets do support them.
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Brian
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the updates.
When the laptop arrives I will be installing SIW & SiSoft Sandra, so I can see what is inside.
On another forum the i7-2630M was highly recommended.
I have a few bench mark links so I will do more research. I'm told that it has 4G of memory & can be upgraded to 16G.
I read some where that there is a relationship between the type of processor & memory??
Again thanks for the replies |
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Brian
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| Brian wrote: | Thanks for the updates.
When the laptop arrives I will be installing SIW & SiSoft Sandra, so I can see what is inside.
On another forum the i7-2630M was highly recommended.
I have a few bench mark links so I will do more research. I'm told that it has 4G of memory & can be upgraded to 16G.
I read some where that there is a relationship between the type of processor & memory??
Again thanks for the replies |
I'm now registered, so I won't miss replies  |
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gshv
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| Brian wrote: | | I read some where that there is a relationship between the type of processor & memory?? |
Yes, there is. The processor integrates memory controller, which support only specific type of memory (DDR3 for socket G2), and specific data rates.
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Brian
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| gshv wrote: | If you have i5-2410M in the PGA package then there is a good chance that you can upgrade it to Core i7-2640M. It will boost performance by 20% - 25% at max, so I'm not sure if it's worth it. You may be able to upgrade to quad-core i7-27x0QM/i7-28x0QM. Try to find out what Intel chipset you have. Intel QS67 Express doesn't officially support quad-cores. HM65, HM67 and QM67 chipsets do support them.
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Thanks Gennadiy, you have opened up some doors of research for me What I have found out is that the Sandy Bridge G2 sockets in i5 & i7 are interchangeable through to the 28xxQM series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
If I am really lucky my chip-set will be H67 they are also compatible with the Sandy Bridge-E, they support Ivy Bridge processors, thus the opportunity to go into the XM & 3xxx series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155
extreme, maybe but for now I am researching & learning. Again thanks for the insight. |
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gshv
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H67 is a desktop chipset. HM67 and other 60-series (Huron River) mobile chipsets are not officially compatible with Ivy Bridge.
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Brian
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Thanks for putting the records straight, HM (M=Mobile) I still have lots to learn for an old fella, who is just starting out.
I do like the looks of the 2860QM it's in the upper high end.
As you say any of the 27xxQM or 28xxQM would be a decent upgrade
I will just have to wait till the laptop arrives them install SIW & SiSoft Sandra to find out the 'facts' about the installed hardware.
Thanks for your assistance. |
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Brian
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I would like your opinion on the appropriateness of these two processors, aside from the price, for home video editing on the XPS 17 L702x.
As there are far too many views & most of them belong to high end gamers or they are bias toward xxxx.
2860QM PassMark, 8032 @ 49 / 2.5 GHz // T 3.6 GHz (13.39) $568 **** CPU part number; FF8062701065100 is an OEM/tray microprocessor CPU part number; BX80627I72860QM is a boxed microprocessor Physical memory to 16Gig // L3 8MB // Quad Core., 45watt
2760QM = PassMark, 7586 @ 56 / 2.04Ghz// T3.5Ghz (20.06) $378 *** CPU part numbers FF8062701065300 is an OEM/tray microprocessor
CPU part numbers BX80627I72760QM is a boxed microprocessor Physical memory to 16Gig // L3 6MB // Quad Core. 45watt
Thanks for the assistance, Regards Brian |
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gshv
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There shouldn't be a big difference in performance between them. Core i7-2860QM is only 100 MHz faster than the 2760QM, and has slightly larger L3 cache. If you don't care about money or need the best performance then get the 2860QM. Another option is to get the 2760QM, and spend extra money on other notebook components, like getting more memory or faster disk drive.
By the way, i5-2410M in your post is listed as quad-core. It's a dual-core processor.
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Thanks for the update & correction.
I will settle on the i7-2760 QM.
Complemented with SSD Sata 3 & 16G memory.
Am I correct in saying that there should be no issues inserting a quad core in this socket / mobo (HM67)
Thank you for your guidance in this, it was advertised as a quad core |
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