Toshiba 4400 MIPs marking

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Toshiba 4400 MIPs marking Reply with quote

I am used to the ES marking on NEC MIPs not referring to Engineering Sample

but came across a Toshiba with ES marking and not really sure

early production & a low speed makes me wonder Confused

here is CPUShack's for reference
http://www.cpushack.com/chippics/Toshiba/MIPS/ToshibaTC86R4400MC-75.jpg

Edit >> also this one of Gennas from the 4000 family
http://cdn.cpu-world.com/CPUs/R4000/L_Toshiba-TC85R4000SC-50.jpg

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of my 6 Toshiba MIPS chips this is the only one I have with ES on it

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well dates on both correspond to when each family was released

4000 >> 1992
4400 >> 1993

on a side note this bit of info on CPUShack's site was interesting

The printed clock speed on early R4000 and R4400 processors is not the cpu clock speed, but the external clock speed, the internal speed is twice that value. Almost every website displays the wrong value for clock speed. So the NEC D30401RJ-50 VR4000SC-50 is actually a 100MHz chip. This was changed with the higher multiplier versions of the R4x00 (50MHz ext. / 200MHz int. / multiplier 4.0), this chips are marked with their internal clock speed.

so your TC85R4000SC-50 should be 100Mhz

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So ES in this case would stand for External Speed ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

g0b wrote:
So ES in this case would stand for External Speed ?


there is old part markings with ES and without.. so dont think so
I would expect if that was the case they would append the ES at the end of speed marking
not with the production code

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

been looking at the various Toshiba MIPs and only the earliest in each family have the ES marking

Still not sold on being an ES, but I would consider them to be a QS or pre-production or not fully qualified at least

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrmunro wrote:
Out of my 6 Toshiba MIPS chips this is the only one I have with ES on it



Hi John,

Mine is A027A (Seems that a litte bit older than your Very Happy ) but the cap and the goldcap is different, very interesting.
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