NexGen 133 without FPU

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: NexGen 133 without FPU Reply with quote

A new one I found, havent seen a 133 without a FPU before.

Anyone know of one?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think any of the Nx586 parts had a built in FPU.. I thought it was always an external chip with them.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gg1978 wrote:
I didn't think any of the Nx586 parts had a built in FPU.. I thought it was always an external chip with them.


Nah they made some with FPUs too

like so: http://www.chipdb.org/img-nexgen-nx586-pf110-e-d-5542.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Great Reply with quote

That's a fantastic chip. I, too, thought that the faster NexGens were always with FPU included.

Do you by chance know where this CPU comes from? Tracing back the motherboard where this was taken from would be cool, because with CPUs >= 120 MHz there should be a newer BIOS version (p06y035f) that I'm desperately searching.

Regarding your statements: I think you are both right Smile

It is true that the FPU always came as a separate chip. The FPU exist even as a separate package, although I don't know whether these were some kind of samples or actually sold. At least I never saw a motherboard for the Nx586 with separate FPU socket.

The NexGen CPUs with FPUs are all MCMs (Multi-Chip-Modules). They contain the Nx586 CPU chip plus the FPU chip, that's why the heat-spreader is so big. According to what I read on the Web it was IBM (the foundry for NexGen) which suggested to use MCMs instead of separate packages.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first NexGen chips had an external FPU. It was relatively common.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It came in a scrap lot so no telling what motherboard it was on Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get it from CN?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, US Based seller, pretty much a normal scrap lot, accept for the NexGen that was hiding.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not alone. Smile
I've got the same from local gold miner three years ego.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 weeks earlier production too, so it wasn't some special run. Probably just whatever they could get to bin that high
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The changed BIOS is not the only thing you'll need to make it run. In fact the cache chips should be faster.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if it works? That would make a cool DOS gaming machine. To bad the motherboard's are so few and far between..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those beauties are almost impossible to find and all Nexgen family CPUs becomes only in stories from grandpa. Still chasing 120 and 133 DJs. You lucky lucks Wink
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