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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: AMD Athlon Slot A problem Reply with quote

Hi,
I have this problem.

I am upgrading my dinosaur at resent. Currently running an AMD-K7500MTR51B processor in a Micro Star MS6167 board

I have the chance of a AMD-A0800MPR24B slot A processor.

My mate has brought the processor down, and he took me to this website

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Produc...46|12_3,00.html

This shows that the MS-6167 board is only compatable with the K7 prefix processor.

got this info from a board programme:
BIOS Date: 08/30/00
BIOS ID: 08/30/2000-AMD-75X-W977-6A6S2M49C-00
OEM Sign on: W6167MS V1.6 083000
super I/O: Winbond 977ATF rev 0 found at port 3F0h
Chipset: AMD 751 rev 35
CPU Type AMD-K7
Speed 500Mhz Max Speed 800Mhz
BIOS ROM in socket YES Size 256K
Memory installed 640MB

Installed the processor, but windows xp wont start up.

Goes through the memory test, but then displays "File missing or corrupt"
<windows Root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

I tried 10 times but same message, i either get the file message or it just cycles to the windows start point and reboots.

When I put the original processor back in, it booted up OK.

What do you think ??

Is it a compatability issue between the K7 and A0 processor even though they look the same, they are not ????
From digging on the net i found that the processor I am trying to install (the A0800MPR24B) is a ThunderBird version (i.e. on die cache as opposed to off die L2 cache).

I have no idea what this means, but could this be it, just not compatable with the board or do i need to manually change a setting in the bios??

My mate suggested reinstalling Windows, but i dont know.
The processor is recognised in the start up menu as a AMD 800MHZ

Any thoughts or suggestions

Rosey
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows XP will only boot with the processor it was installed with. In other words you have to reinstall XP with the new CPU.

(That does not answer you question about the compability of your new cpu, but if you get that far with booting there should be no problem)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cpuswe wrote:
Windows XP will only boot with the processor it was installed with. In other words you have to reinstall XP with the new CPU.

(That does not answer you question about the compability of your new cpu, but if you get that far with booting there should be no problem)

/Thomas

Definitely NO Smile If only processor was changed Windows XP must work stabile. Test Athlon 800 on other motherboard.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cpuswe wrote:
Windows XP will only boot with the processor it was installed with. In other words you have to reinstall XP with the new CPU.

(That does not answer you question about the compability of your new cpu, but if you get that far with booting there should be no problem)

/Thomas

thats wrong. u can change the cpu and windows will still be A-OK!!!

Bios will need upgrading on that board if it hasn't been done already - havent looked into specs or anything
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcin Majewski wrote:
Cpuswe wrote:
Windows XP will only boot with the processor it was installed with. In other words you have to reinstall XP with the new CPU.

(That does not answer you question about the compability of your new cpu, but if you get that far with booting there should be no problem)

/Thomas

Definitely NO Smile If only processor was changed Windows XP must work stabile. Test Athlon 800 on other motherboard.


OK, did not know that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bios will need upgrading on that board if it hasn't been done already - havent looked into specs or anything[/quote]

Bios is at
BIOS ID: 08/30/2000-AMD-75X-W977-6A6S2M49C-00
OEM Sign on: W6167MS V1.6 083000

This is the latest from MSI site

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

afraid u will need to get a new board then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the cpu was not supported by the mobo, I think it would have not boot...
I think it is a software problem, and I think that you should test with a bootable cd (linux ?)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But it is clearly stated on that website that the board in question does not support that chip.

do the different athlons run at different voltages?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sammyc wrote:
But it is clearly stated on that website that the board in question does not support that chip.

do the different athlons run at different voltages?

Yes they run at different voltages :
A0800MPR24B -> 1.7V
K7500MTR51B -> 1.6V
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would explain why it doesnt quite make it through to XP.

Perhaps it would manage 98...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Guys,

Will start the internet search for a K7 prefix processor for my board. I know i should buy a new system, but the kids will kill it in 2 minutes (windows have recovered from aserious application error) every time i boot up and they have switched on, then off, then on....... looking for the nick jr site !!,

So as i am limping along on 500mhz, i thought faster processor, graphics card etc, will be a small outlay and a better system.


I dont play games, only internet, burn the odd cd / dvd etc , but all things now want a minimum of 500mhz processor. My ram ok as its 640MB but the processor will soon let me down.

Will list the "Thunderbird" on Ebay and sell it to someone who can use it

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: partial success Reply with quote

Ok, partial success.

Entered the bios and disabled the "exterenal cache" (due to the on die of the thunderbird)

Booted up, and WOW windows xp loaded. It started to go through its start up (anti virus, printer etc), then switches itself off and resets.

This process just carries on and on.

Does this help anyone ??

Rosey
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: partial success Reply with quote

rosey wrote:
Ok, partial success.

Entered the bios and disabled the "exterenal cache" (due to the on die of the thunderbird)

Booted up, and WOW windows xp loaded. It started to go through its start up (anti virus, printer etc), then switches itself off and resets.

This process just carries on and on.

Does this help anyone ??

Rosey

You have defect cache L2 Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: partial success Reply with quote

rosey wrote:
Ok, partial success.

Entered the bios and disabled the "exterenal cache" (due to the on die of the thunderbird)

Booted up, and WOW windows xp loaded. It started to go through its start up (anti virus, printer etc), then switches itself off and resets.

This process just carries on and on.

Does this help anyone ??

Rosey

Seems it goes too hot and then reset. Fan working ? Heatsink installed properly ?
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