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Marcin
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| fRaSsL wrote: | Arghl... PARANOIA??? 
Expirienced collector...  |
Something you not understand 
I mean more experienced collector then me 
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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it's an experienced engineer you nee to speak to..
And I can tell you - it's 33 x 4.5!!! LOL.. for the 10th time.
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Marcin
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for bad word that I used. Engineer have many other means when we translate to polish so I not used it. Frassl think it is 3x 50 and this is time to end discussion because it goes to be paranoic. No problem.
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sammyc
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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WHo said it was 3 x 50?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I think that this cpu is not fake, but AMD only manufactured a few, and they are distributed solely by ComputerNerd in upgrade modules.
If this is correct, the cpu is AMD 5x86 150MHz (50x3.0) was set up "486 Processor Adapters" of ComputerNerd.
To get internal clock multiplication X3, pin R-17 (CLKMUL) it has to be connected to +3.3 Vs (very simple with the adapter, look also EVERGREEN Am5X86-P75)
Naturally if the cpu (without adapter) it doesn't have multiplier for 4, it is not AMD 5x86.
Also Cyrix distributed 5x86 133MHz 33x4.0 only at ComputerNerd.
http://www.cpu-museum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3066&highlight=#3066
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sammyc
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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nope
33 x 4.5
test it in a bloody board!!!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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When I have finished sorting out my web pages (or at least the 386+ ID pages) I'll be able to post a link to the info I have ...
Settings for an Am5x86, and the values returned by CPUID for each of them are as follows:
CPUID=0484, CPU=Am5x86 150, WT mode, 50MHz * 3
CPUID=0494, CPU=Am5x86 150, WB mode, 50MHz * 3
CPUID=04E4, CPU=Am5x86 133/160, WT mode, multiplier = 4
CPUID=04F4, CPU=Am5x86 133/160, WB mode, multiplier = 4
So, simply put it in a board, run a CPU ID app and see what it returns (make sure you know what settings you have on the board for WT/WB).
As long as you're not sure if it's genuine, set it to be running at a slower speed - this won't affect the CPUID return value!
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Mixeur
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | OK.
I bet a P1 266MHz that the 150 is 33 x 4.5 !!!
what have you got to bet? |
I bet it is 3x50Mhz. I bet a 386Dx-33  |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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too late! haha, plus i need to see it powered up anyway 
I am still shocked...
Why why why why? they are the same CPU. X5, nothing different but the speed. It would make sense
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | too late! haha, plus i need to see it powered up anyway
I am still shocked...
Why why why why? they are the same CPU. X5, nothing different but the speed. It would make sense |
This chip is a non-sense ! WHy do they called it P75+ whereas they have X5-133-P75 ? They could have called it X5-150 P90... |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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because it is 'apparently' running at the same power of an intel P75
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | | because it is 'apparently' running at the same power of an intel P75 |
No, the X5 133 is 'apparently' running at the same power of an P75. So the X5 150 shouldn't...  |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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yes, thats hat i meant - so good point!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I will have AMD 5x86 P100 - 160ADZ  . Which is 99% fake in my mind. I wrote email to AMD. Maybe they will confirm that. I will post picture here and if somebody want this fake cpu - welcome
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I'll take it
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