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aberco

Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2655 Location: Paris France
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:47 am Post subject: IBM PowerPC 603e MCM |
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Just got something that I've never heard about before, a PowerPC 603e MCM. The MCM integrates a PPC603e 100Mhz, L2 cache and tag RAM, a PCI/memory bridge, and a clock source. There's some vague evidence online that there might be a 604e version of this.
Packaged on a thick ceramic substrat in your typical IBM CCGA (column grid array). It's big too!
I might get more, if so I will try to remove the metal cover off one.
Datasheet available here:
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/powerpc/_dataBooks/G5220297-00_Odyssey_MCM_Feb97.pdf
Photo upside down otherwise the engraving was not visible  |
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aberco

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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| And a detail of what's inside |
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Vlasta

Joined: 15 May 2012 Posts: 2565
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I would take 1 _________________ best rgds.
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Marcin

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 8519 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Nice chip indeed but not big - from picture I would say not bigger than Pentium I CPGA. _________________ Visit ABC CPU - Virtual CPU Museum. |
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aberco

Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2655 Location: Paris France
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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not all MCMs are big, it's the same size as a SuperSparc IIi MCM
Same size as a Pentium indeed.
... for a PowerPC it's huge  |
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henriok

Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 157 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Wow, nice find. I've never even heard about these before. Did you get any sense of what these was used for? Where did they come from? _________________ Always on the look out for POWER, PowerPC and Power Architecture information. For photographs, information and parts to buy. Am doing research at Wikipedia |
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aberco

Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2655 Location: Paris France
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| No idea of anything using these, also I never heard of them before. New old stock from Shenzhen. Some of them are currently on sale in the "buy" section of the forum (see yk sale4). |
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yk

Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Posts: 539 Location: CN
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| I want to open it ,but fail |
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aberco

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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: |
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this is why you have an ugly one for sale?
I will try when I will have the proper tools. It is, like all IBM chips, using that grey silicon sealant which does not melt when heated. |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I will also try to open one. I think I will be able to manage it. I already
wrote an article about it on my website.
http://www.cpu-galaxy.at/Article/IBM_Power4.htm
At work I have the possibility to use a X-Ray system to find the right
place on the MCM without cracking a die or damage any resistors.
When I will have done this I will post the results with fotodocumentation, also the X-Ray  _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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aberco

Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2655 Location: Paris France
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Where did you find that Power4?
It's the "1 way" version with integrated 8MB cache... I've seen similar one in desktop RS6000 workstation, where they are soldered directly on the motherboard. But they did not have the metal heatspreader on top.
I'm tempted about the screw technique but it leaves a mark on the ceramic too...
Can't wait to see the MCM opened!
PS: I posted a comment a long time ago on your site saying it was a Power5 because it's dual die... obviously it's not!  |
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aberco

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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| I know it's not good to open presents before christmas... |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: |
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wow wow wow, sooooo nice...
and very nice way to remove the heatspreder. *lol*
I wonder how you managed not to destroy anything underneath.
congrats, very well done. _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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aberco

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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I tried your screw method but failed... the screw broke in half
You need to evaluate how much clearance there is between the dies and the border of the aluminum casing. You can saw the heatspreader right at this place, because it is thinner and not in contact with the die or the ceramic substrate. The you can lift it and remove the rest with pliers. |
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lhf_james

Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 337 Location: Nanjing China
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Awesome disassembling. Never thought this chip could be so beautiful inside. Thanks for sharing and merry Christmas! _________________ Tracing 4004 all over the world |
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