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| Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| Robert key wrote: | | Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
if you are looking at business class notebook.. I would put HP just ahead of Dell
if you are looking at entry class notebook, I would go with Dell
HP never seemed to grasp what to skimp on (component wise) to make a cheap notebook
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | | Robert key wrote: | | Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
if you are looking at business class notebook.. I would put HP just ahead of Dell
if you are looking at entry class notebook, I would go with Dell
HP never seemed to grasp what to skimp on (component wise) to make a cheap notebook |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| Robert key wrote: | | Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
Apple 
I had a Dell desktop - top of the range - GB coming out of the wazoo - and 5 monitors, 3 motherboards and all the memory changed twice now it is a useless lump..... I switched to Apple and have never looked back.
Do it - you WILL feel like a new person.
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Hi,
so, why Dell and why not HP, but i prefer the sentence.
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Do it well - buy the Dell,
and/or Lenovo is my frined and right hand.
In fact you can dell and hp, quality is very fine, both.
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what's the intention for that very question?
Are you in anyone's business, Robert?
lol, do you have a budget to support this website for more answers? ... asks someone who is really far from the website's owner.
Just curious about what's behind that very short but very precise question.
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hardwarecop
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| Vlasta wrote: | | Robert key wrote: | | Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
Apple
I had a Dell desktop - top of the range - GB coming out of the wazoo - and 5 monitors, 3 motherboards and all the memory changed twice now it is a useless lump..... I switched to Apple and have never looked back.
Do it - you WILL feel like a new person. |
+1 yeah, Apple is the best choice IMO despite its higher than average price - it turnee out to be absolutely worth. It's just super stylish and noble - and you just can't compare Windows to OS X. OS X is very reliable.
And as long you're not focused on gaming but on office, MacBooks are just fine 
I'm saying this as a owner of both HP Windows 7 SSD and MacBook Air 13"
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being in laptop repairs field for a lot of years now, in a country where if possible laptops are repaired not thrown away, i can tell you that the problem is not Dell or HP .. every company has good notebooks and bad notebooks series ...
you should start thinking if you want to keep the laptop only for the warranty period and then change it, or you want to keep it some years after that .... if first version, doesnt matter which one you choose.... they are all same thing....
Else, its all about the cpu, chipset and graphic card ...
for example, for HP, the association AMD CPU (athlon x2 for example) + Nvidia graphic card went very bad... the DV6000 and DV9000 series are best example... a lot of heat and after a while graphic card failure..... after that reballing, reflow and other operations... but problem was never solved 100%
on the other hand on many laptops AMD cpu and ATI chipset association went bad for the chipsets ... had a lot of them with unsoldered chipsets...
another problem is how easy are they to clean of dust... and the change of cpu if you want an upgrade (not avalable if BGA cpus) ... on many laptops for cleaning the dust you should dismantle all the laptop and remove the motherboard to get access to the cooler .. ( i dont agree the compressed air solution for cleaning the cooler) ..
- you should ask if the ram memory is onboard or there are ram sticks.. i have seen a trend lately (especially on ASUS laptops, but not only) to solder the memory on motherboard .... and i saw a lot of them with memory problem (errors in memtest or others testing software) ... and nothing to do in this case, only to replace the motherboard... i saw with 4 GB DDR3 on board + an empty memory slot or with 2 GB DDR3 on board + 2 gb ram sticks...
- also you should check if the CPU is BGA or normal.... i saw laptop with BGA cpu and unfortunately it was Celeron single core, same laptop model , same chipset but an expensive version was with i3 or I5 ... if BGA, nothing to do.. if normal, buy a second hand cpu and have a cheap upgrade....
there are few others things, but this ar emore important
good luck
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| Vlasta wrote: | | Robert key wrote: | | Which company produces better laptops hp or dell plz share your views |
Apple
I had a Dell desktop - top of the range - GB coming out of the wazoo - and 5 monitors, 3 motherboards and all the memory changed twice now it is a useless lump..... I switched to Apple and have never looked back.
Do it - you WILL feel like a new person. |
That's odd, I manage a network of ~800 Dell Optiplex 7xx / 3xx / 3xxx series machines and roughly 90 iMacs. 99% of the Dell desktop machines have given years of realiable service. Apple replaced the motherboards in 16 machines under warranty last year, and outright replaced 2 desktops. Laptops, we have roughly 200 Dell and probably 20 Apple. I think we warrantied 1 Dell keyboard last year and had 1 Dell replaced, and on the Apple front, two had batteries replaced (one nearly ruptured) and one got replaced outright after having two motherboards.
Every company has their "Budget" line and their "Enterprise" line. Apple just doesn't market a "Budget" line. Putting a retail-grade Inspiron up against a Macbook Pro isn't really an apples to apples comparison. One costs twice as much. But a Latitude or Precision up against a Macbook, i'd take the Dell Latitude or Precision any day. These days, Apple uses Intel chips, and Nvidia or ATI graphics chipsets. They use WD and Seagate Hard Drives, LG LCD panels, and Lite-On optical drives. I've got news for you, that's the same flavors of hardware that Dell/HP/Lenovo/Acer/etc use. |
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hardwarecop
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Hp or dell |
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| mavroxur wrote: |
Every company has their "Budget" line and their "Enterprise" line. Apple just doesn't market a "Budget" line. Putting a retail-grade Inspiron up against a Macbook Pro isn't really an apples to apples comparison. One costs twice as much. But a Latitude or Precision up against a Macbook, i'd take the Dell Latitude or Precision any day. These days, Apple uses Intel chips, and Nvidia or ATI graphics chipsets. They use WD and Seagate Hard Drives, LG LCD panels, and Lite-On optical drives. I've got news for you, that's the same flavors of hardware that Dell/HP/Lenovo/Acer/etc use. |
Actually that's a very true and well saying. Apple has never really manufactured their hardware themselves. They mostly had and have to rely onother sources. Even the PowerPC CPUs were IBM manufactured.
But on the other hand, there's no other company that has the simple and beautiful design on their notebooks. No other company has their own operating system (but of course it's possible to hackintosh since OS X is x86-x64 based). That are actually the main reasons why I went for Apple among others, like weight, power efficiency and high battery service life - despite being aware that the components Apple uses are mostly just like the components other manufacturer use
Apple doesn't have a real MacBook budget line. So that makes it more unique and kinda rarer - and thats okay, at least for me. See how Apple failed to make a budget line with the iPhone 5C? 
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