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sammyc
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 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: Microprocessor fundamentals. |
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It's not very often I visit this forum and post something - but I have something quite interesting here.
My Dad buys and sells old books and I have asked him to save any old books to do with processors etc... And he found this:
It looks very interesting, not something I really tend to collect though.
Is there a market for this type of thing?
PS. My dad sells 1000's of books, and this is the first Microprocessor book he has found in over a year...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if there is a market for it, but I did find a link (which I PMed you) which might help if you end up putting it on eBay 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| post or scan some pages, like the contents and something else, like one of those problems solved... just out of interest. |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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4 random pages....
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JAC
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Thanks for that. Not quite Amazon preview*.. lol
not something that interests me, but people do collect that stuff. put it up and tell us how much it sells for, unless somone here wants it.
* that is awesome though.. |
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sammyc
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I keep forgetting the name of the guy who wrote the intel microprocessor book. Maybe he may have more of an idea if I should keep this or throw it in the bin.
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Hippo
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As someone who has studied electronics/microelectronics it may be of use to a college student. Most colleges when teaching microelectronics will teach the intel 8086/8 or the Motorola 68 series stuff.
I actually lectured BTEC NC Microelectronics for a few months 
EDIT: I wouldnt mind that book if you decide to throw it out.. |
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JAC
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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It might be of some interest.
Microcontrollers are all the rage now though. You gotta love them Microchips ones. Everything you need in a single chip, but dont forget to check the stack depth! |
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debs3759
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I certainly wouldn't throw it out. Don't know what it's worth, but now I've seen the condition of the interior I'd pay you $10 if it's still available when I have money later tonight or tomorrow
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I think sammy should read it and learn something new.  |
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| JAC wrote: | | I think sammy should read it and learn something new. |
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| JAC wrote: | It might be of some interest.
Microcontrollers are all the rage now though. You gotta love them Microchips ones. Everything you need in a single chip, but dont forget to check the stack depth! |
Yeah PIC's are great,but they are too compact to teach anyone REAL microelectronics.
A SBC of a intel 8088 with 2716/6116/8284/8255 is the easiest way to teach people simple Micro Computers. I built a SBC (Single Board Computer) for my final year project based on those components plus a couple of 74 series for address/control decoding. Once you have built one of those everything else after is much easier to understand. |
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| Hippo wrote: | | JAC wrote: | It might be of some interest.
Microcontrollers are all the rage now though. You gotta love them Microchips ones. Everything you need in a single chip, but dont forget to check the stack depth! |
Yeah PIC's are great,but they are too compact to teach anyone REAL microelectronics.
A SBC of a intel 8088 with 2716/6116/8284/8255 is the easiest way to teach people simple Micro Computers. I built a SBC (Single Board Computer) for my final year project based on those components plus a couple of 74 series for address/control decoding. Once you have built one of those everything else after is much easier to understand. |
I would disagree. Assuming its a good engineering course - if you can handle fluid dynamics, n order control systems, etc, then looking at a couple diagrams of a PIC or other uC is a great deal faster and easier to learn. There is also some nifty educational software out there that breaks it all down into bite size chunks. I did my time in the trenches wiring up 6502's, and a myriad others , with wire wrap over 10000000000000000 hours. I would have much rather spent my time with assembly and higher level languages. |
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Hippo
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This thread is going seriously off topic, but anyhow.
Yeah I forgot to mention the assembly programming. We learned how to program in x86 asm on the PC's then translated that into 'real' x86 assembly for the single board computers we were creating. I know I wouldnt be able to do my job without what I learned then.
The trouble with PIC's and some other microcontrollers in general is it doesnt give you a full understanding of data lines, control lines and addressing. Once you understand those concepts you can scale them up to any Micro computer system.
I will admit that PIC's are simply stunning. The ease of use, the tight command set and lots of varied devices with all sorts of built in gizmos (A/D, I2C, UART etc). They can be a little underpowered at times but for simple things they are great and replace quite complex TTL circuits easily
I'll post a pic in a bit of my final year project, but not in this thread, to show you what I created. |
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