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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen the 603e version in the classical IBM blue flipchip PGA package, but not the 603 yet. There it is!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Yeah.. I've been meaning to talk to you about this, the curious case of the missing 603 in blue QFP. And you've already solved it! Smile

Thanks a lot!!
Now I just have three configurations left of the 601, 602, 603 and 604 family left to draw.

With your skills in locating rare pictures of PowerPCs, I'm not ready to give up on the 620 just yet Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh the elusive 620...!

I'm trying to purchase that board with the blue 603 but the seller raised the price by 25% after I made an offer, lol!

I do have high rez scans and photos for you, I can skype them to you.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the latest renderings. The (as far as I know) the complete list of PowerPC 603 processors from IBM and Motorola/Freescale. The pictures are not to scale.

If anyone has pictures of another configuration, from another vendor, that'd be much appreciated. The 603 design was licensed to other manufacturers, and there are for example radiation hardened versions that I don't have any pictures of. And companies like Atmel, e2v and Thompson did resell rebranded versions of Motorola's parts.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only some variations



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent!
The first is Atmel's rebranded Motorola version, with Moto's designation printed on the die MPC603RRX200LC. Cool green underfill too.
The second is curious with the "e" in the logo.
The third is an MPE603R, an MPC603R with the FPU disabled.
The fourth.. is the gold sheen from the silicon or the environment? The black underfill is new too me too. And EMPPC… hm? It's for embedded use, but I don't know how that differs from a regular PPC603e.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The fourth.. is the gold sheen from the silicon or the environment?


it's a normal metal die, gold it's only from environment
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice!

The new silver colored dies on the BGAs are bang on.

I do have a Thomson 603e QFP (from Motorola) but it's in Paris...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomson
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

henriok wrote:
Excellent!
The first is Atmel's rebranded Motorola version, with Moto's designation printed on the die MPC603RRX200LC. Cool green underfill too.
The second is curious with the "e" in the logo.
The third is an MPE603R, an MPC603R with the FPU disabled.
The fourth.. is the gold sheen from the silicon or the environment? The black underfill is new too me too. And EMPPC… hm? It's for embedded use, but I don't know how that differs from a regular PPC603e.


EMPPC same as MPE603 has the FPU disabled, actually its not disabled usually, its function is just not guaranteed

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomson sold it's stuff to Atmel, and then Atmel sold it to e2v iirc. e2v still calls their parts "TSPC" and that designation must be from Thomson, no?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, all PowerPC 604 variants completed. And to scale. The smaller are 21x21 mm and the larger about 40x40 mm. The first row is from Motorola, and the rest from IBM. High res versions in my Flickr stream.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really awesome!
There's was a milspec 604 for sale on the forum a while ago
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! I've seen that. I've actually seen two of those. Both were marked engineering samples, and I always thought that they were true samples, pre-production, before they settled on the blue epoxy packaging.
But hey! I'll dray that one too Smile
Different proportions on the die… curious!

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