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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: PLEASE DON'T SHIP CHIPS IN EXPANDED POLYSTYRENE !!!!! |
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There doesn't appear to be a better place to post this. I don't think of it as off-topic but there is no forum set up for this type of post...
I have received chips several times now which are packaged in expanded polystyrene. If I receive more that are packaged like that I am going to start naming names, as it destroys chips. I ahve mentioned it in a couple ofthreads before, but this does not seem to stop people packaging them like that. Also, I have more than once had chips that are secured on either polystyrene or foam using packing tape, which lifts print off some chips, therefore reducing their value compared to chips which are intact.
Please could everyone who packs chips with either or both of these methods stop doing so! You are destroying products which people pay good money for.
I now have a number os ST6x86 with no markings on them, a Tx486DLCE wiuth no speed marking on it, a MediaGX with almost no print on it, a Blue Lightning with much of the print missing (all were new before the tape damaged them)... The list goes on.
I'm not rich and cannot afford to buy chips which are damaged like that. I know I am not the only person to have the same concerns, so would appreciate any response which will help stop this from being repeated.
I am sure that someone will think this is being said to help sell the anti-static boxes I have - it is not. Anti-static foam is not expensive from yourlocal electronic supplies shop, and before putting tape round chips you can put paper or card over them to protect them. Even if that is not my prefered method of shipping, it would not damage the chips.
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I deleted the poll as with a little afterthought I felt that it may be counter-productive if anyone were to think I was targetting them, given the nature and timing of this thread. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| yeah.. open request to not put tape over the chips. I had a pentium overdrive come in with packing tape over the fan.. it lifted off the label on the fan with the markings. |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I actually dont mind chips in poly.. why??
simply as I am probably not going to use them, ever. Its all eyecandy to me, and besides, in not many years time its all going to be pretty moot anyway about the functionality. ( unless you manage to keep a bunch of old boards in a time warp field )
you also need to understand the nature of static damage. I could go on and bore you all or I could say just look at this link.......
http://www.satcure-focus.com/design/page7.htm
Also, in my experience, dont think anti-static packaging is some great gift from above. All it does is try maintain a constant potential. It can fail, and in any event it is the handling which is more important.
If anti-static packaging is not available, cardboard is good, and so is foam padding. Just please keep tape to a minimum.
as a side note, I remember a documentary which demonstrated how womens clothing and undergarments combined with the car seats & car design allowed static to build up, causing petrol pump fires. Where? USA of course. LMAO. For those of us here in the UK, you can probably find it repeated on one of the Discovery channels on Sky. |
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sammyc

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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OK, nice idea to have a vote, but polystyrene really doesn't bother me... And as for tape, this hasn't happened to me before at all, in 100's of transactions. - surely nobody selling on this site is daft enough to selotape over print? _________________ 4000+ chips.
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sammyc

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| JAC wrote: |
as a side note, I remember a documentary which demonstrated how womens clothing and undergarments combined with the car seats & car design allowed static to build up, causing petrol pump fires. |
"women" Think thats a dig at you debs  _________________ 4000+ chips.
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I've had items a few times in polystyrene and twice with packing tape that lifted print off chips which were bought here, so yes it does apply to people here Sellotape wouldn't be so bad - it's when people put Scotch tape - proper packing tape - directly onto chips that it causes the biggest problem, as that is designed to stick firmly to anything it is pressed onto, and that appears to include the print on SOME although not all procssors (and other chips, I would imagine...). _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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sammyc

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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amazed that people here are that stupid. I have bought off just about every regular user here aswell. Perhaps you should email the seller? Who is it anyway. I'm sure they won't do it again. _________________ 4000+ chips.
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Beat them with a stick until they bleed. They wont put tape over the chips again. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | | JAC wrote: |
as a side note, I remember a documentary which demonstrated how womens clothing and undergarments combined with the car seats & car design allowed static to build up, causing petrol pump fires. |
"women" Think thats a dig at you debs  |
Actually, if I had thought it was aimed at me I'd do worse than get out the guns, everyone would know about it Way I see it, any clothes made from certain cheap materials (such as crimplene, and someother plastic based materials) are as bad, and even men can have cheap crappy shirts made from them. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| sammyc wrote: | | amazed that people here are that stupid. I have bought off just about every regular user here aswell. Perhaps you should email the seller? Who is it anyway. I'm sure they won't do it again. |
I have sent him a PM, which is why I won't name him. I'm sure he will avoid it in the future, and didn't realise what would happen, I just want to be sure that others are aware and avoid the same mistakes. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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el_gecko

Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 1553 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: |
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I totally agree with debs, even if the majority of "cpu-worlders" are quite carefull when packing chips. I don't mind about poly-packaging but there are so many ways to pack chips easily and safely. Just turn around the CPU with a piece of bubble-paper, put a piece to scotch tape and it's ok. I never had any problem with this method
PS : scuse my english  _________________ My microprocessor collection: The Gecko's CPU Library |
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sammyc

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1668 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| gecko54000 wrote: | I totally agree with debs, even if the majority of "cpu-worlders" are quite carefull when packing chips. I don't mind about poly-packaging but there are so many ways to pack chips easily and safely. Just turn around the CPU with a piece of bubble-paper, put a piece to scotch tape and it's ok. I never had any problem with this method
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Has anyone had problems with my packing? I know it's a biton the light side, but it gets there in one piece... doesnt it?
BTW gecko, your English is good, you must have a great teacher  _________________ 4000+ chips.
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone had problems with my packing? I know it's a biton the light side, but it gets there in one piece... doesnt it?
BTW gecko, your English is good, you must have a great teacher  |
Your packaging has been OK for me. I would say something if the post office dropped a brick on it, but even a box wouldn't always protect against that My only concern with anyones packaging is what I have expressed. I have posted before about expanded polystyrene and had positive responses, which is why I felt OK to psot this thread - and as there are others who have some of the same concerns I am hoping it has the positive effect I am looking for, which is not to have anyone feel targetted or to have everyone question their methods, merely to point out any forms of shipping, not just those I pointed out, which may not be so good. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Polystyrene = bad!!! Packingtape = bad!!!
As with all collecting, working stuff is more valuable.
My two latest buys has come with polystyrene. And a FC80486DX4-75 with packingtape all over it. Lost a few letters...
Debs, perhaps a topic change to reflect yours and our opinion. Some (that should read this) perhaps misses the point if just glancing through the topics. _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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southsails

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm. I always do antistat foam, antistat bag, and then a box. Then it usually goes in a USPS Priority Mail envelope. Maybe overkill for a Pentium, but I think warranted for 1970s chips. |
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