how collectable are es or confidential cpus

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whelenfan



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:22 pm    Post subject: how collectable are es or confidential cpus Reply with quote

Just getting started with the cpu collecting bug and I am wondering how badly I need to get an es for my collection... thoughts or insight?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are pretty collectible as they in general were not for general release. So they are a bit 'special'

Some people collect them, and some don't (usually due to the cost)
Some collectors collect ONLY ES CPUs

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After many years of collecting CPUs I still don't have a single ES. I'd gladly keep them I found one in the scrap, it's just that people rarely used ES CPUs on a daily basis and scrapped the system later.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's up to you if you need one or not Wink. Engineering samples are more special than regular production models. Some engineering samples are really close to the final product and some are samples from the early development stages. I like those early samples because they can give insight in the development of a particular CPU. I.e. when did they first have a working sample? Are there crucial bugs? Does it have a fully unlucked multiplier? How does it scale? etc. Smile

I'd also like to have working hardware; preferably early CPU's combined with early engineering sample motherboards. It's interesting to see that early Intel motherboards boot up with 'Intel(R) Pentium(R) 5' when you insert a Pentium D Smile.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im in with all the rest.
it's a matter of taste.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks everyone...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some ES have features not present in regular CPUs like unlocked multiplier. Otherwise they are the same with more errata and lower overclocking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Some ES have features not present in regular CPUs like unlocked multiplier. Otherwise they are the same with more errata and lower overclocking.

Not always lower overclocking. Wink
The high leakage samples scream when you take them sub zero.
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