abc-cpu on eBay too

[Marcin]

I want to let you know that I alive on eBay too

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZabcQ2dcpu

[sammyc]

I see you have a 99p buy it now,

after Ebay charges and Paypal charges you can't be making much..?

[Marcin]

PayPal charge pay buyer It is worth to throw some unused CPUs.

[JAC]

yeah u cant charge paypal fees. Get your buyers to use moneybookers if you want them to pay fees.

[Marcin]

I didn't knew ... hmmmm ... I must change conditions - get more on shipping cost to pay PayPal fees

[debs3759]

[JAC]

u cant pass on paypal fees deb, and you cant offer a discount for accepting other payments ( reverse discrimination ) ebay own paypal, so they want final value fees and they want the fee for processing the payments. The best thing to do is add the paypal fee onto the starting amount* or postage. The listing fee is the same from £1-£4.99 so no loss there. Just remember, paypal fee is like 3.5% + fixed sum.


* whilst you may think this is passing on the fees, it is technically, but it cant be proven. Asking people to pay the paypal fee is clearly passing on the fees and is no allowed. Your listing will get pulled ( but only if they find out ), I think they have given up on telling you to change it.

[debs3759]

If the account is a personal account, you can (or at least you could in the past and I never heard it had changed). I knew that only because when I first converted my Paypal account to a Premier account, one of the things about having the "Sellers prefers Paypal" logo is that you are announcing that you, the seller, will absorb the fees.

Adding it into shipping and handling is another matter, as handling can mean anything, and who ever asks for a full breakdown of handling in order to challenge it?

[JAC]

PayPal users are not permitted to impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as payment. For more information, please see Section V of the Payments (Sending, Receiving, Withdrawing) Policy in PayPal's User Agreement.




Thats pretty clear.

[debs3759]

We'll have to agree to disagree on what that means. To me a surcharge would mean adding a fee for the right to pay using Paypal, not setting the cost to include Paypal's own fee, which I wouldn't see as a surcharge if it is part of the handling fee. I don't ask a buyer to pay it, but if I am told it is part of what I am paying (and not an extra charge) then I have never personally thought it was wrong. Surely it would be better for a seller to say the handling includes the Paypal and eBay fees than to pay an excessive charge without it being said (eg $10 to ship a DIP that costs only $2 to ship intenationally).

[sammyc]

Ebay banned paypal surcharging about a year ago.

[JAC]

erm..


"..surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as payment.."


it doesnt matter what you call it, or where you put it. You cant pass the charges on.

The reality is 99% of all ebay sellers do this in the "P&P". The worst is the USA sellers.. I am often charged $10-$15 for a USPS global priority mail package.. the postage on the parcel is never more than $3-$5. So I can only assume the seller is pocketing the rest. There are a few really good sellers on ebay who are honest with their postage charges.

[debs3759]

Yeah, that's what has me thinking it's common practice and assuming that it was OK. I personally don't mind if someone makes a bit more than what shipping costs, but $10 extra (which is pretty coommon) is ridiculous. I've even had some here in the UK who say that admin costs if you collect an item are £5 or more! Yet at the other end of the scale I had one seller who wouldn't accpet £1 when I won an item for £0.01 and collected it Another (that I won today for £0.01) is going to deliver from 25 miles away free of charge!

[Marcin]

Wow discussion is on air I don't worry about that problem. I don't write that I charge PayPal fee. Original message from item description :

1) bank transfer to my account in Germany (Dresdner Bank)
2) bank transfer to my account in Poland ( BRE mBank)
3) Accept PayPal [total price including shipping + (2,9 % + 0,30 USD)

Nothing said about charge, fee, tax etc. I inform buyers before bid about additional cost when he want to pay by PayPal. I can explain that using PayPal need more time and I want additional cash for "handling" PayPal

BTW. eBay admins are PARANOIC if they realy looking for people who want money back to paid PP fees. If they not like it so I suggest them to do free PayPal. In Poland we have similar auctions and similar payment menager as PayPal. No problems ...

[Marcin]

I forgot to say that. I had a CONTROL from eBay admins. What was wrong in my description ? ... Link to my home page.