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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1847 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: Very early FC-PGA S370 Celeron ? |
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I recently found this very strange Celeron ES.
Never saw this marking (white "Celeron"). It's also very early: April 99 while the common FCPGA Celeron ES are dated Nov/Dec 99 (for a March 2000 launch). Even the Socket 370 Pentium III has been announced in October 99.
The die is too small to be 0.25µm but doesn't look like a Coppermine. There is no caps on back. Maybe a Thermal Sample ? But I don't know why they marked it as "Celeron". Or some early pre-Timna attempt ?
It's a total mystery for me. Any guess? _________________ ES-Only Collector : http://www.engineering-sample.com
Universal Chip Analyzer (UCA) : https://x86.fr/uca / http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34349 |
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Birdman.

Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 833 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Measure die size, looks like Coppermine die rotated 90 degrees to me. Maybe it's just Coppermine in different early package. |
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H3nrik V!

Joined: 15 Apr 2014 Posts: 1246 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Wow!
Funny, by the way, that the 533MHz ES doesn't have 533"A"MHz
Edit: Or is that just the way it is in the part number? |
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rjluna2
Joined: 27 Oct 2014 Posts: 1302 Location: Hiram, GA, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Looks like the Intel Confidential sample is made on the 17th week of 1999  |
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I like the Intel Confidential Celeron. Looks really coool. |
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bccwchan

Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 2585 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW, do you test the Intel Confidential cpu? |
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Katmai500

Joined: 30 Sep 2010 Posts: 360 Location: Southern NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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That's a really interesting one.
I've got a Pentium III sample that looks similar to this. QF06ES manufactured Week 08, 2000. So Intel was playing around with this odd Socket 370 layout for quite a while. |
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H3nrik V!

Joined: 15 Apr 2014 Posts: 1246 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Apparently, this is a new Q-spec, you should post it in the thread for new S-Specs. |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1847 Location: France
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Katmai500

Joined: 30 Sep 2010 Posts: 360 Location: Southern NJ, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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The more I looked at these I noticed something. They seem to match the look of the FC-PGA2 package, but without the heat spreader. They have the smoother finish and lack the grid of little squares on top. Does anyone have a photo of an FC-PGA2 with the heatspreader removed? I wonder which direction the die is aligned underneath?
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