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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1846 Location: France
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:34 pm Post subject: Introducing the ATX2AT Smart Converter |
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Some weeks ago, I fried a nice 486 motherboard I got in a scrap lot at first boot. Some capacitors were shorted and my ATX PSU, coupled with a regular passive ATX2AT adapter, led to massive damage (burnt traces). That short was not "short enough" to trigger the (very large) PSU overcurrent protection. The motherboard was FUBAR by the time I noticed something went wrong and manually switched off the power (within 3/4 seconds).
So, while waiting for the first batch of Universal Chip Analyzer being assembled, I created a "Smart" ATX2AT Converter, featuring fully-programmable electronic fuses. I also added a small OLED display for monitoring purpose, a -5V regulator to regenerate that missing voltage (required by some sound cards) and some additional filtering capacitors. The project will ultimately be open-source and can be adapted for any other retro-platform that require -12/-5/+5 and/or +12V.
All technical details are available on this page: https://x86.fr/atx2at-smart-converter/
I'll be happy to hear your thoughts and suggestions about this project.
Some friends already expressed an unexpected strong interest for this adapter. If we're only a few to want one, I'll assembled them manually, but if we're more than a few, I can consider having them built by a fab to reduce costs.
 _________________ ES-Only Collector : http://www.engineering-sample.com
Universal Chip Analyzer (UCA) : https://x86.fr/uca / http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34349 |
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edwardauskis

Joined: 26 Nov 2014 Posts: 770 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Great work, but hard and expencive, on ebay atx/at adaptor about 3$ _________________ Regards,
Edvardas |
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1846 Location: France
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cvandijk
Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Posts: 3589 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Perfect, everyone working with old components need one.
I need one, I have a NexGen motherboard on the way, and I don't want to fry it. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I will have a few AT systems up and running by the end of the year. This looks great, but I usually buy AT cases with AT PSU for a little cheaper  _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
I can resist anything except temptation.
Debs |
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cvandijk
Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Posts: 3589 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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But those old AT psu's can fry you hardware, or if your main board is broken it can also fry every other component.
If I understand it correctly, this little device will protect your hardware. |
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CHips

Joined: 01 May 2016 Posts: 834 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice, would be fun to power a 386 motherboard with a 80+ Titanium PSU :p.
Modern PSUs are likely providing better current, so it might be a good idea to use one for very rare and expensive motherboards, as it might improve the lifespan of components (even though I wonder if anything would change in practice, as we can find 20-30 years old computers still working with original or very old PSU). _________________ Stelo.xyz Museum (CPU Collection and more) |
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1846 Location: France
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| CHips wrote: | Very nice, would be fun to power a 386 motherboard with a 80+ Titanium PSU :p.
Modern PSUs are likely providing better current, so it might be a good idea to use one for very rare and expensive motherboards, as it might improve the lifespan of components (even though I wonder if anything would change in practice, as we can find 20-30 years old computers still working with original or very old PSU). |
Not that crazy: a good 386 motherboard is sometimes MORE EXPENSIVE than a 80+ Titanium PSU...  _________________ ES-Only Collector : http://www.engineering-sample.com
Universal Chip Analyzer (UCA) : https://x86.fr/uca / http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34349 |
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xsecret

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1846 Location: France
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cvandijk
Joined: 21 Jul 2016 Posts: 3589 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Let me know when I can order one, hopefully very soon  |
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gekaufman
Joined: 08 Dec 2014 Posts: 385 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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A great idea!
I'd like to get one as well.
- Gary |
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max1024

Joined: 15 Jan 2015 Posts: 636 Location: Belarus
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:36 am Post subject: |
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xsecret
Impressive! Very good job and the Aidea.
A have only one aidea for this adapter - the plactic case for it to prevent a short circuit. You can leave a window for LCD screen buttons and switches. I think this case can be made easily on a 3D printer. |
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debs3759

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 9477 Location: Northampton, Divided Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: |
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After thinking about it, I may take one if you can get enough interest to drop the price to $40 oe less. Then I can check boards before building systems with them. _________________ My graphics card database can be found at http://www.gpuzoo.com.
I can resist anything except temptation.
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Vegeta

Joined: 13 Apr 2013 Posts: 7049
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Cool! I'm interested in one. _________________ Wanted: 4 x VT-25-A tubes |
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sunaiac

Joined: 13 Jul 2012 Posts: 312 Location: Palaiseau, France
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Can this be made to support heavy load on 5v by taking from the ATX 12v ?
Think athlon 1ghz and crappy 5v on modern PSU  _________________ X470 Taichi - R9 3900X - RX5700XT - 32GB |
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