What Cpu was rare and isn't anymore ?

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alexino2



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:35 pm    Post subject: What Cpu was rare and isn't anymore ? Reply with quote

Hello,

Last crazy prices with some recent chips let me ask this question :

What cpu was really rare and expensive before, and over the years, they wen't commun and their price have drop down ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not exactly REALLY rare but several sspecs have dropped alot
Pentium S106J (and SK107 etc)
486 SX826

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never know when someone will find a stack of trays of previously uncommon NOS chips in a cupboard somewhere. The sharp rise in available quantity will cause prices to drop.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cuttingedgecs wrote:
You never know when someone will find a stack of trays of previously uncommon NOS chips in a cupboard somewhere. The sharp rise in available quantity will cause prices to drop.


I'm talking between cpu world exist and now Smile Some 15 tray may be the only ones you will ever see....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For exemple, a lot of P54 or MMX are popping by trays on Ebay,
Buying 100/120$ a rare spec of those today seems crazy and really risqued, moreover when they have a big timeline.

At the reverse, 386/486 are becoming more and more rare, and some rare spec are worth less than rare pentium...

So i'm trying to figure out what is safe from trays and other not...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet even now we are finding previously unknown chips from the 80s, so who knows
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
Yet even now we are finding previously unknown chips from the 80s, so who knows


The last tray I can think of is a 486 from xhoba with SX884, and it's a 1994 chip Smile

Don't think we'll wee a tray of A80386-12 any time soon lol.

The hard part is to determine if middle frequencies will pop such as A80186-6 or AMD PGA 186/286...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must be hallucinating...

the most commun of all pentium overdrive PODP5V83 SU014, going at 70$ on ebay, and 5 of them was sold that price...

Meanwhile, just bought rare PODP3V150 SU083 at 30$...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexino2 wrote:
I must be hallucinating...

the most commun of all pentium overdrive PODP5V83 SU014, going at 70$ on ebay, and 5 of them was sold that price...

Meanwhile, just bought rare PODP3V150 SU083 at 30$...


People are using the SU014s in retro systems though

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:


People are using the SU014s in retro systems though


I heard, same with Voodoo. A friend told there were no equivalent.

But cpu for retro gaming ? Is there an equivalent of PODP5V83 in Socket 3 ?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are different markets. Collector's market, retrogamer's market, user's market...
For the collector, when they see something unusual, they can put high price for it. After, it will depend on experience on collector. Collector with little experience will find something unusual very often... And will pay and pay for things not so rare. That can explain sometime abnormal prices.
Retrogamer's and user's market will look for more powerful cpus on a platform. So for socket 3 this is PODP5V83. For Socket 3, it will be AMD DX5s and so on. This explain why those cpus tend to be more pricy. Because they have a additional value.

Anyway, looking at ebay from time to time is not a good indicator. You have to look for a big period, to average the prices, which is quite hard to do if you follow lot of kind of models....

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

am5x86-133 should never be rare. They made loads and loads and loads of them until at least 2002.

PODP5V83 probably wasn't manufactured for very long, but almost nobody bought them, so tonnes survive in shrink wrap.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

black_monolith wrote:
PODP5V83 probably wasn't manufactured for very long, but almost nobody bought them, so tonnes survive in shrink wrap.

More people are using them nowadays than during its years of splendor Laughing

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