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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice site, and its FAST.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chipcollector wrote:
Nice site Smile I love the menu on the left, it's basic, fast, and gets straight to the point. Keep up the good work, hope to see a lot more cool and rare chips up there! Smile


Thanks. There'll always be more to do, but when I get improvements made to the interface I hope I can keep the simplicity and speed Smile

Cpuswe wrote:
Great work debs! Nice to get to see your chips! I have added your site to the contributors page in the library.


Great, thank you. Any chips that are missing from the library can be added freely, if I don't upload them before you get to the appropriate section Smile

slava wrote:
Good job, Debs! Nice chips!

On the topic of having a menu that, once modified, is the same on all pages, that was my exact problem not long ago. Do you remember my first website? The one with five frames icon_yikes


Yeah, I remember the 5 frames, that was worse than the 3 I have Smile I've got to look into php so I can simplify the interface. I've always avoided server side scripting, but I guess there are enough code snippets out there to make learning and getting something up and running a lot easier now Smile I like the general layout I ahve, but like others I'm not keen on the frames, and don't have another solution that I'm aware of Smile

The biggest problem with converting to php and getting rid of frames is that each time you click on a link the menu needs to be reloaded, and that will slow it down for anyone who is on dial-up. I've got to weigh up what's worse - having frames or having increased download times for slow connections. Both have their good and bad points Smile

CPUShack wrote:

nice site, and its FAST


Thanks. The speed's gotta be as much to do wqith the hosting package as the coding of the pages Smile Thanks for the hosting, the new server is certainly faster than the old (so far...).

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see another one of the UK bunch has got there act together.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sammyc wrote:
Good to see another one of the UK bunch has got there act together.


LOL. Still waiting to see your collection Sammy icon_poke

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried SSI?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Have you tried SSI?


What's SSI?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

server side includes, basially in your code you tell the server to add some code (like navigation) as it serves the page.

Works like frames, without the frames.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
server side includes, basially in your code you tell the server to add some code (like navigation) as it serves the page.

Works like frames, without the frames.


Great, sounds like something I'll have to look up information on, especially if it ends up easier than looking for information on rewriting the site in php. I'll have to start working on a test site to try out various options - may not get started for a while as I need to take a break from coding my site for a few days, but it does look like I have a few options to try out now Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPUShack wrote:
server side includes, basially in your code you tell the server to add some code (like navigation) as it serves the page.

Works like frames, without the frames.


I am doing the same with PHP includes, am I not? Smile
Which way is better?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple of factors that come into it for me:

Learning curve: how easily I can learn what I need in order to rewrite the site
Speed penalty: how will it affect the speed of loading a page with the same visual layout.

As there appear to be several options available, I'm not going to get too bored for a while, especially as I need to keep the existing site updated while I work on improving and replacing what is there Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excelent Debs. Nice to see your collection.
I use the same frames method as you because I really
don`t have a clue how to do it any other way. It took
me a very long time to complete my site.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick search on google gave me this link for ssi coding:

http://www.georgedillon.com/web/ssi.shtml

It looks like it'll be an easy way to change the site layout, while making it possible to update site-wide information through the use of just a couple of pags (eg all pages that need the side menu need only one page to be updated, the header and navigation bar can be in another, etc). Once I have the existing pages altered to add this information, I just need to adjust the template file I use so that the information is always there.

I'll need two templates - one for pages relating to my collection, another relating to pages that are to do with programming and other info that don't really need the same side menu. Easy to do that Smile It's a shame I didn't research that (or know to research it) in advance, but not a big job to add once I have created a test page to see how it works Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've been saying for a while that your website was comming. I am surprised to see it so soon and with so much content at the outset. Cpushack is right. It is fast, you must have a nice server or service. I don't mind the frames but the site could use a friendlier frontpage. It is very intimidating at first glance: Lots of text, no pictures or empty space. Looks like it's coming allong quite well, with lots of content. When you get your tradelist up make sure to put up a want list as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The frames will be gone as soon as I have got the whole SSI bit sorted out. I have been testing a few ways to do that, and now know the site is best with asp, so I set up a couple of test pages to do that the way I was told. The server barfed at me! As soon as that bug is ironed out (it's a new server so might for all I know still need a little configuring) I can get to work on changing my pages and remove the frames. Should be changed within the next week or so, and that'll make site-wide updates far easier as well (even simple things like updating email links can be done as SSI).
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