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feipoa
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I can confirm that Windows NT 3.51 Workstation installs on my NexGen Nx586 PF110. I do not need to set Alternate Instructions.
Finding drivers might be a problem. For the most part, do NT4 drivers work on NT 3.51? |
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cvandijk
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| feipoa wrote: | | Finding drivers might be a problem. For the most part, do NT4 drivers work on NT 3.51? |
It depends, VGA drivers probably not. For what drivers are you looking? |
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mtx500
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| feipoa wrote: | | mtx500 - that would bother me to the point of buying a new router |
Two days ago the router stopped working .. it is alive but can't get a DSL connection. I now have the previous one in place (just a few weeks ago I wanted to throw it away because it was collecting dust and noone needs that old stuff anymore - phew!). Time for a brand new one, but no hurry because the very old one works. |
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mtx500
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| feipoa wrote: | | Explorer will hang if I have a disc inserted into the CD-ROM drive. I need to remove the disc before proceeding to shutdown. If I do not use IDON or AlternateInstructions, I can leave the disc inserted in the drive at shutdown. |
Frankly, I have no idea why there should be any connection between these things. |
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H3nrik V!
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| mtx500 wrote: | | feipoa wrote: | | Explorer will hang if I have a disc inserted into the CD-ROM drive. I need to remove the disc before proceeding to shutdown. If I do not use IDON or AlternateInstructions, I can leave the disc inserted in the drive at shutdown. |
Frankly, I have no idea why there should be any connection between these things. |
I asume, you mean Windows Explorer, not Internet Explorer? Maybe it needs to terminate connection with the drive to assure no file handles are open, before shutdown .. |
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feipoa
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I mean explorer.exe
It is part of the Windows operating system. |
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feipoa
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| The Matrox website contains some Windows NT 3.5 drivers. They seem generic and do not specify which graphic card they are for. Well, I tried to install them in Win NT 3.51, which contains a Matrox G200, but upon reboot, I receive a BSOD (shown). Using VGA mode didn't help, neither did AlternateInstructions. In Win 3.11, when this happens, you go to C:\Windows\setup and remove the offending video driver, but NT 3.51 doesn't have this feature. I'm going to have a big learning curve on this OS, so far, it is even more particular than NT 4.0. |
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H3nrik V!
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| feipoa wrote: | I mean explorer.exe
It is part of the Windows operating system. |
Yeah, that's the one, I call "Windows Explorer". File manager, start menu etc. |
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feipoa
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Is explorer.exe just for Windows Explorer? I thought explorer.exe was also responsible for the task bar and some other operations? |
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cvandijk
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| feipoa wrote: | | The Matrox website contains some Windows NT 3.5 drivers. They seem generic and do not specify which graphic card they are for. Well, I tried to install them in Win NT 3.51, which contains a Matrox G200, but upon reboot, I receive a BSOD (shown). Using VGA mode didn't help, neither did AlternateInstructions. In Win 3.11, when this happens, you go to C:\Windows\setup and remove the offending video driver, but NT 3.51 doesn't have this feature. I'm going to have a big learning curve on this OS, so far, it is even more particular than NT 4.0. |
Maybe you can try to run setup again and repair the installation. You can always try the VBEMP NT driver: http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbemp.htm |
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H3nrik V!
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| feipoa wrote: | | Is explorer.exe just for Windows Explorer? I thought explorer.exe was also responsible for the task bar and some other operations? |
Yeah, also that  |
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misace
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| Quote: | | I have discovered what was causing Explorer to hang-up upon shutdown of Win95c when using IDON or AlternateInstructions. Explorer will hang if I have a disc inserted into the CD-ROM drive. I need to remove the disc before proceeding to shutdown. If I do not use IDON or AlternateInstructions, I can leave the disc inserted in the drive at shutdown. Anyone know of a workaround for this, that is, aside from having to eject the disc? |
Have you tried exchange CD-ROM drive or CD?
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misace
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| feipoa wrote: | | The Matrox website contains some Windows NT 3.5 drivers. They seem generic and do not specify which graphic card they are for. Well, I tried to install them in Win NT 3.51, which contains a Matrox G200, but upon reboot, I receive a BSOD (shown). Using VGA mode didn't help, neither did AlternateInstructions. In Win 3.11, when this happens, you go to C:\Windows\setup and remove the offending video driver, but NT 3.51 doesn't have this feature. I'm going to have a big learning curve on this OS, so far, it is even more particular than NT 4.0. |
Did you tried older drivers from their FTP?
ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/win_nt35/
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feipoa
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Nope, but I will try v2.51. I had tried v2.10.
For every failure, though, I need to reinstall the OS. If I can't get the NT 3.5 drivers working, I'll try the NT4 drivers. My NT4 Promise IDE drivers appear to work. |
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feipoa
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Thanks for your help - v2.51 of the Matrox drivers worked!
Now I'm trying to get my IBM 10/100 ISA card working, which is proving a challenge. I remember always having problems with this card in Windows 3.11; NT 3.51 so far is having the same problems. Win95c is fine though. |
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