939 Athlon strange beahavior

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D.8080



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am    Post subject: 939 Athlon strange beahavior Reply with quote

Hello,
I got an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (rev. D0) Winchester core.

When I populate slots B with a single stick of ram the system won't start, halting on C1 error (memory sizing).

If in slot A it works perfectly.
If I populate as to have dual channel it will work and memtest is flawless.

All tested on 3 different boards and same result.

Is it maybe that the memory controller on the cpu is not working properly as it is the only thing I can think of.

Even stress tests perform well, no hangs.

Curious stuff.

Thanks for any insight.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand datasheet populating only the second channel would work only starting from revision E (Venice and later).
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D.8080



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frag_ wrote:
Are slot A and B on the same channel or they are first slots of different channels?
If on the same channel then as I understand datasheet it would work only starting from revision E (Venice and later).


Slots are a1/b1 a2/b2

If a1+b1 ram ok;
a1+a2 ok
a1+b2 ok <----- it works but it shouldn't; maybe because a1 is on?

a1+b1 + either b2 or a2 (for single channel with 3 sticks) ok

If second slot of the channel only no boot (hangs at memory sizing probably expecting slot1 of the channel to be there).

I think you are absolutely right, must be what you say otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
One thing I didn't know.
Thanks!!

Yes, I tried E core revisions. I don't have a D core revision to check (just lots of venice cores Smile).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mm-hm. From long experience with a Socket 939 board (an MSI MS-7184 "Amethyst" - a 'special' made under license for HP/Compaq, so MSI won't acknowledge it!), I can definitely confirm what you've said.

You try running without anything in either channel's 'primary' slot, it doesn't want to know.....at ALL. The BIOS definitely expects to find something in either a1 or b1, otherwise you throw the coding right out..... Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, at some moment of life i had the same proble with motherboard of my brother.
It was Am2/Am2+ motherbord GA-MA69VM-S2 from Gigabyte.

It had 4 DDR2 Slots. But when i try to upgrade it from 4Gb to 8 i get only 6 in work condition.
One of slots (do not remeber number). If i use 3'rd slot if count from left to right do not want to start.
Ofcourse at those moment i think that was porblem of MB.
But some time later i found that it was a bug of some steppings of Athlon X2.
And when i get more powerful CPU - Phenom x4 i get 4
fully functional DDR2 slots(8GB ).
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D.8080



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact is that we take for granted that the cpus that are out in the market have been thoroughly tested and, except for some very specific instructions that never are used by the average user, they are flawless.

Many cores have specific issues, bugs and whatnots that we are not aware of unless we actually read datasheets. Maybe with a chipset but not another.

Some patches can be applied through OS or maybe a new BIOS, some just need a new core revision.

Personally I never thought it could be a specific design requiring to have the first slot populated in order to boot. Another example is old boards and ram chips density.
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