Motorola 930386

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:21 am    Post subject: Motorola 930386 Reply with quote

hi trying to find some info on some chips I have.
i cant find any mention of the 930386
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will see wat others come up with, but Motorola made a lot of one off custom or ASIC chips.
If this is one, then there may be no public info on them
If you can put a picture up.. what package are the chips & any other markings including the under-side

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the picture I will have to get an underside one in the morning
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice old packages from 1973
on first glance custom rom chips.. more value in their looks than ic value.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could also be a equivalent to a intel 3002 bit-slice
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/3002/MANUF-Intel.html

only to know is if there are spares is open the lid on one.

EDIT.. can't be.. as date is too early.. 3002 was release 1974
so ROM the most likely

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for the info. I really appreciate it. I am new to the collecting side of electronics. I got my associate's degree in electronics and acquired these and many other chips from an estate while in school, and they have been in my basement ever since.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbymoon wrote:
Thanks again for the info. I really appreciate it. I am new to the collecting side of electronics. I got my associate's degree in electronics and acquired these and many other chips from an estate while in school, and they have been in my basement ever since.


All good.. so the closest Intel equivalent would likely be a 1601 & 1602 depending on ROM size. Though the package is old, by the dates they are probably 2k. Too early for 4k

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of pins, probably a MaskROM of some sort with custom I/O

Too many pins to be a standard ROM product from that era usually

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I may have answered my own question. after looking at the chips I realized that I had some Texas Instruments IC's labeled with the same 930486 but were also labeled with TMS4100, so according to the datasheet below the TMS4100 JC is a character generator so I am assuming that the Motorola chip is a copy of or equivalent to a TMS4100?

also for some reason one of the Texas instrument chips is labeled TMX4100






https://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/download.php?id=c730c642446afe7271296b86422ffc25e44ba9&type=M&term=tms4100
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

character generator is a fance ROM so makes sense
TMX is a prototype part, so thats a cool one too

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be MCM1130L then. From Motorola 1972 data book, page 487:

http://bitsavers.org/components/motorola/_dataBooks/1972_Motorola_Semiconductor_Data_Library_Reference_Volume.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, I was unable to find the Motorola equivalent to the TMS4100.
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