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tlccomp

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1212 Location: Southeast Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: More Chips, unknown manufacturers. |
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Anyone help in identifying these manufacturers and or chips?
I'm pretty sure they're custom makes.
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chip68

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 1024 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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The top two 40-pinners are made by Fairchild (see bottom left IC here, which is a DVM chip: http://home.comcast.net/~cwebster68/various.jpg ) - but they're house-numbered, so not much chance of finding info on them.
The "TTY" chip could be a keyboard encoder for a teletype terminal.
I'll let you know if I come up with anything on the rest.
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metalmaker
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 161 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the chip below the Fairchilds is manufactured by Western Electric (WE 379). I have seen other known Western Electric chips marked with "WE".
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chip68

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 1024 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Huh. I'm more accustomed to seeing their "WE" logo on transistors. One of Western Electric's earlier forays into computing, a shift register from 1959:
Really makes you appreciate large-scale integration...
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metalmaker
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 161 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Huh. I'm more accustomed to seeing their "WE" logo on transistors. One of Western Electric's earlier forays into computing, a shift register from 1959: |
The world's first single-chip 32-bit microprocessor was the AT&T Bell Labs BELLMAC-32A, with first samples in 1980, and general production in 1982 (See this bibliographic reference and this general reference). After the divestiture of AT&T in 1984, it was renamed the WE 32000 (WE for Western Electric), and had two follow-on generations, the WE 32100 and WE 32200. These microprocessors were used in the AT&T 3B5 and 3B15 minicomputers; in the 3B2, the world's first desktop supermicrocomputer; in the "Companion", the world's first 32-bit laptop computer; and in "Alexander", the world's first book-sized supermicrocomputer, featuring ROM-pack memory cartridges similar to today's gaming consoles. All these systems ran the original Bell Labs Unix Operating System, which included the first Windows-type software called xt-layers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor#32-bit_designs
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chip68

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 1024 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Funny, I would've said the 68000 was the first single-chip 32-bit microprocessor. That same Wikipedia article goes on to say:
"The most famous of the 32-bit designs is the MC68000, introduced in 1979. The 68K, as it was widely known, had 32-bit registers but used 16-bit internal data paths, and a 16-bit external data bus to reduce pin count. Motorola generally described it as a 16-bit processor, though it clearly has 32-bit architecture."
Which seems to contradict the paragraph above on the WE 32000. In fact, I recall the buzz about the 68000's 32-bit architecture when it first came out... I ordered this brochure from a Motorola rep the following year, in the spring of 1980:
Soon afterwards I ended up doing a couple 68000 (later, 68HC000) designs. Here's one of the prototypes, circa 1991:
Four AM27H010 EPROMs on that little beastie.
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tlccomp

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1212 Location: Southeast Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Great "stuff"!  |
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chip68

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 1024 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I tend to agree that it has to do with register width. I always thought of the 6809, for instance, as a 16-bit processor.
| chiptalk wrote: | | I love the Motorola 68000 series chip. |
Ditto. Wish I still had my old 68030 Mac IIfx...
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