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JAC



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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answer............all the circled "m" !!! none of the cpu's that I have seen has a made-up "m" like these ones....the only ones I know are found to be fakes !




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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......now that wasn't necessary.. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have several others chips, including a nice A80386DX-25 I just received, that have the same marking. They all come from different sources, so I would be as puzzled if they all were fake as I would if I discovered my sister comes from Mars.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JD wrote:
.......now that wasn't necessary.. Rolling Eyes


oh lighten up man Wink have you fried you humour chip?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am confident this 386 is genuine. - not like that suspect pentium in the other thread!

I have several fake/remarked 386/387 chips. I'll dig them out this weekend to show you what to look out for.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humor's always present Very Happy .....but I don't joke about drugs ! Wink




Ya well, over here in LALAland Canada, according to all those bad "m" 's they are fake..what can I say.....

I mean , they faked out many other various chips findable with certain markings, why not these ones?....where's the paper that accompanies the proof on their quality and purity?.......show me them, and I will believe.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just it.. no COA .. one of the main uses of VICCA possibly. Having said that, I would always use my judgment in any significant purchase.

I havent heard of fake m's before Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe............oh well then.....









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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess all my no logo 386's are fake then. That counterfitter must have been real busy to produce more chips then Intel.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JD wrote:
all the circled "m"


For future reference, that's called the mask work symbol.

- CMW
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chip68 wrote:
JD wrote:
all the circled "m"


For future reference, that's called the mask work symbol.

- CMW


Interesting, I didnt know that.. googled some more info..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mask_work


this is more to the point...

http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/maskwork.html


"The owner of a mask work protected under the Semiconductor Chip Protection Act may affix a notice of ownership to mask works, to masks, and to semiconductor chip products embodying the mask work in a manner and location which gives reasonable notice of the claim to protection.

The Act requires the form of the notice to be:

1. The words mask work, the symbol *M* or the symbol (M in a circle); and
2. The name of the owner(s) of the rights in the mask work or an abbreviation by which the name is recognized or is generally known.

Affixation of such a notice is optional and is not a condition of protection but the notice does constitute prima facie evidence of notice of protection. The Register of Copyrights shall prescribe by regulation, as examples, specific methods of affixation and positions of the notice."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.........

So ya...isn't weird that the "m" is off from the rest tho...
Why is it that they made a limited amount of those weird "m" 's at the same years they were stamping normal "m" 's ? Did the ink run out temporarly , so they had do do them manualy or something?....Cause they look VERY VERY handmade to me and a growing number of people here!


New task : Someone try to find out what lead them to temporarly change the make of the "m" within the same fabrication years of the normal one! I think it would be interesting to know this.The above text only explains only so much to me ,Jac ,not bad but .....I need the scoop Very Happy !

In other words, why was the "mask word" so slugish !



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks ok to me!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..yes, I'm agreeing that it looks ok to now., but I want to know if there's anymore info that can be found on the reason they suddenly changed it to a "sluggish" looking "m" ? And only for the 386 as well , I noticed !
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