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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can I upload?

I didn't see any "Upload" folder.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a login/pass to access the database. If you agree to share, just send me a PM and i'll send you the login/pass Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have recently uploaded many datasheets to the datasheet server. But there must be more around. Did everybody take a look on the server?
Frassl, Gshv, CPUShack and all the rest of you! Come on have a look and share yours! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have uploaded a few Smile
just not recently

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I have uploaded the Weitek 4167 Datasheet to the datasheet server.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does ftp.x87.fr still exist? My browser can't find it...

If not, is the archive hosted elsewhere?

If the archive is dead, has anyone got a mirror of it that I could have temporary access to? Before seeing this thread, I have been thinking of setting up that sort of archive myself, but obviously I'm not going to duplicate the effort of others (although there may be documents I have that can be added to it, and I am sure there will be many docs that I don't have yet).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently rebuilding the database.

I recently put my hand on x86.fr and it will be up again soon, perhaps with some nice http interface

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. I'll be going through what datasheets I ahve soon, and may have some that aren't there - I'll be able to let you know when I know what is there (and I'll be surprised if there aren't also some that I can use :0

Is it just for CPU datasheets, or does it include peripheral chips?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good idea. It is still alive ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

debs3759 wrote:
... or does it include peripheral chips?

I'm worry peripheral chips need Terabytes of space. I recommend you http://www.datasheetarchive.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've started rebuilding my own collection of datasheets (thanks to mtx500 for helping replace a lot that my ex destroyed), and if there isn't a dedicated site such as the one this thread was about, I will be putting a lot of the more obvscure ones online in the next few weeks (I'm almsot ready for a major site update, and that will be followed by a lsit of datasheets...).

I'll also be looking for anyone that can send me electronic (or paper if you are so inclined...) copies of any datasheets I don't already have, including differing versions of sheets I do have, so that I can provide a lsit of what is available - it may mean I occassionally need to juggle which sheets are on the site to keep within a reasonable space constraint, but I'll also have a datasheet listing that is similar to that on sandpile.org, but which will cover everything I have from any class of processor.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no substitute for data books... For every data sheet on a datasheetarchive.com or bitsavers.org there are a thousand that aren't. I can't even conceive of having a collectible, vintage IC without the original data book to go with it.

Generating a repository of data sheets piecemeal seems hit-or-miss at best, and would take an enormous amount of time, work, and server space.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chip68 wrote:
There's no substitute for data books... For every data sheet on a datasheetarchive.com or bitsavers.org there are a thousand that aren't. I can't even conceive of having a collectible, vintage IC without the original data book to go with it.

Generating a repository of data sheets piecemeal seems hit-or-miss at best, and would take an enormous amount of time, work, and server space.

- CMW



I think its a good idea. Online datasheets from FREE resources have helped me many times. Just because it will never be perfect doesnt mean its not worth doing. Why dont you scan some of your databooks and put stuff online?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chip68 wrote:
There's no substitute for data books... For every data sheet on a datasheetarchive.com or bitsavers.org there are a thousand that aren't. I can't even conceive of having a collectible, vintage IC without the original data book to go with it.

Generating a repository of data sheets piecemeal seems hit-or-miss at best, and would take an enormous amount of time, work, and server space.

- CMW


I agree with JAC. Some of us are not able to just buy everything we want or need, and having the means to accumulate an archive of downloadable material is something I and others will find very helpful (a lot more helpful than comments about how useless it is...). Any datasheets you can scan and offer for addition to the archive I'm setting up (CPU specific only at the moment, because of space and cost) will be gratefully received.

Of course, if the original archive that people uploaded sheets to ever gets back online, I'll happily merge what I ahve with that archive, so it can be as comprehensive and useful as possible.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Why dont you scan some of your databooks and put stuff online?


Why should I? I give out enough free information as it is. I mean, I'll gladly scan them, but you'll have to pay me more than the books themselves are worth for my time and effort.

If you want to be a collector, you have to be prepared to spend some money in the process. Many of these old data books are available for a few dollars on Ebay or through booksellers like Alibris or Amazon. The ones that aren't are rare and worth paying a little extra for, IMO. Data books are just as important as the ICs themselves... And a PDF of a data sheet is like having a photo of a chip - nice, but hardly something to build a collection around.

Bottom line: If you can afford the chips, you can afford the books. Anyone who wants to wait for some database to magically appear online thanks to the good graces of a few individuals uploading at random, be my guest. I just think it's quicker and easier and provides a more complete picture when you go out and get the original documentation. It occurs to me that if you guys set up group buys for chips, you could do the same for data books, then scan them yourselves. But being stingy (no offense) and waiting for freebies isn't going to get you the archive you're looking for.

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