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Qwerty
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 Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: Strange mobile celerons |
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I got these two strange mobile Celerons. They are mounted on Socket 370 adapter board.
I have never seen such CPUs before, and I can't find them on any collector website! Does anybody have similar processors in his/her collection ?
Why there are so many ICs, resistors and capacitors on the adapter boards ? Any idea ?
What does "CUSTOMER CONSIGN" mean ?
English isn't my native language. I looked in the dictionary, but it makes no sense for me.
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Mixeur
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They are often offered for sale on some EBay auctions from Chipsfan or CPUbar.
It is not an official mount, the BGA cpus(Celeron or PII) are not intended to be put on Socket 370 PCB adapters, that's why I don't collect it. Maybe the same for other collectors ?
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Cpuswe
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yepp, thats my oppinion to. These seem to be asian budget creations. I have a few in my collection but thats because the chip on top, not because they are on that socket.
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CPUShack
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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"CUSTOMER CONSIGN'
means a person took these to a place to have them sold for them.
Selling on consignment means you sell someone else stuff for a fee
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JAC
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| they also did it to plenty of QFP 486. |
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Wizzard1
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats neat! Thanks for sharing. I did not know there was any way of moving a p2/celeron chip to a socket370 machine! |
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Qwerty
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your comments !
| Mixeur wrote: | | It is not an official mount, the BGA cpus(Celeron or PII) are not intended to be put on Socket 370 PCB adapters. |
| Cpuswe wrote: | | These seem to be asian budget creations. |
But these CPUs are not from China ! I purchased them in Germany, and I know the seller got them at the scrap yard.
The adapters are of MUCH better quality than the average fake / "budget creation" from China. I have many CPUs on adapter from China and I see the big difference.
| JAC wrote: | | they also did it to plenty of QFP 486. |
The QFP CPU is cheaper than the PGA version. IMHO the mobile celeron is more expensive than the desktop PGA version. Why should the fakers mount mobile CPU on the desktop adapter ? They will earn no money with it.
I am not completely sure, but I heard that such CPUs were used in some sort of ultra low power set-top internet boxes.[/quote] |
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Wizzard1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I wonder.....
Would any of these work in a PPGA-only socket370 (Which only accept Celeron=<566MHz) as an upgrade? I have a BookPC in desperate need of an upgrade! |
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xi11west
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: |
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that's funny
Mobile celeron on PGA adaptor from China are fake "budget creation" , while from Germany are "in MUCH better quality"
"big difference"? is that a joke?  |
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Qwerty
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| xi11west wrote: | that's funny
Mobile celeron on PGA adaptor from China are fake "budget creation" , while from Germany are "in MUCH better quality"
"big difference"? is that a joke? |
You didn't understood me. No offense to China intented
The adapters are better NOT because they come from Germany ! I mean they are of much better quality than the average FAKE from China.
I have many "self made" adapters from China and I can see the difference with my eyes. The fakers try to earn as much money as possible, that's why they use the PCB boards of very bad quality. Many of these adapters were soldered (or corrected) by hand. And sometimes the SMD resistors were soldered on these boards by hand to force the overclocked CPUs to work !
The adapters I have were created by regular electronic factory. They have the same good quality as the other PC boards.
I don't know - perhaps these adapters were made in China. (Most of today's computer equipment was made in China ! 80% of parts in my computer were made in China )
But these Celeron adapters were made in a regular Hi-Tech electronic factory and NOT in faker's workshop.
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Cpuswe
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The modification above is from an ES (LZF:s Rise) so i would not use that as an example since these are probably done by an engineer with a soldering iron or a in a small scale development.
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JAC
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| That soldering could only be done by a software engineer. Terrible! lol |
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Qwerty
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Sorry - wrong picture !  |
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JAC
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| put it back |
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viili
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| I have this P2 300MHz mobile. At first it didn't fit regular s370 socket, it had an extra pin which i soldered off. Without it it didn't work, but examination of both adapter PCB and Intel datasheets, I figured out it needed to be fed with 3.3V which a circuitry on the adapter lowered to ~2V. I tried overclocking it a couple of times and kept because it's a fun oddity, multiplier unlocked 300MHz processor with 256k of full speed L2 cache. |
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