athlon xp 2000+ running very hot

[adam]

my athlon xp seems to be running at 66 degrees whilst idle and 72 degrees under full load. i am not noticing any performance troubles but this seems to high to me.

i have a pretty good heatsink so could anything else be causing the problem?

[jd]

STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMD FAN HERE LOL ! Do not kill it



My kids AMD 2200+ is running @ 41' idle and 47'-49' max load , if that helps you see the difference.

...did you install this CPU yourself ?...either way, and if you have the "know how", I'd check the following:

#1 Check the motherboard for any swollen capasitors.
#2 If nothing found, remove the cooler off the CPU.
#3 Check the CPU condition around the head.(does it look damaged in anyway?)
#4 Replace the CPU paste with fresh batch.(only bout half a pee size is needed).
#5 once all is still good, what is the RPM of your FAN on that cooler? Minimum should be in the 3500+rpm's for Athlon's.
#6 Is your Cooler as you said (is good) but is it? IS it a stock cooler special for handling 2200+ and above AMD's ?(just making sure ).
#7 Is your CPU clock settings all correct ?What's CPU is it ?
#8 If all of this failed to be a visible cause, have you or can you try the CPU on another board to be certain it is good...Or have another CPU to test your current board to see if the heating results are the same...

[Guest]

its a athlon xp 2000+ its running at the default 1667mhz i have not overclocked it.

i dont know what "swollen capacitors" are could you please explain?

the rpm of the fan is 1900rpm, the box it came in says its suitable for up to 3400+ athlon xp's

the cpu does not look damaged in any way

this is a hand built pc but its using a old Packard bell motherboard (ms6511) and the cpu that came with it refuses to work with any other board.

ive tried running a duron 850 on this board and it ran at 81 degrees!

i have recently reapplied the thermal paste but the idle temp has only dropped to 64 degrees

i get these temperatures from "speedfan" and the bios temp is very similar. however the base of the heatsink doesnt feel very hot to the touch

[D.8080]

Absolutely idiot but worked many times, can you put a termometer on the heatsink?

Try taking the temp. Make a chart of values.


Please, read your termometer's specifications before ruining it. A human body won't get over 43°C leaving it alive, so beware.

[jd]

its a athlon xp 2000+ its running at the default 1667mhz i have not overclocked it.

---->Ok good to hear that.

i dont know what "swollen capacitors" are could you please explain?

-------> They look like this (see picture with good vs bad )

the rpm of the fan is 1900rpm, the box it came in says its suitable for up to 3400+ athlon xp's

------>I really don't think that a fan at 1900rpm is a good thing for an Athlon !

the cpu does not look damaged in any way

---->that's good news so far !

this is a hand built pc but its using a old Packard bell motherboard (ms6511) and the cpu that came with it refuses to work with any other board.

----->Humm.....? This is strange indeed.

ive tried running a duron 850 on this board and it ran at 81 degrees!

------->BINGO ! You just answered your question If by putting another CPU on that board, it's still running high temps, then you certainly need a new motherboard !

i have recently reapplied the thermal paste but the idle temp has only dropped to 64 degrees

-->typical, but on the right track...I think it's the board now.

i get these temperatures from "speedfan" and the bios temp is very similar. however the base of the heatsink doesnt feel very hot to the touch

--->Ok, good observation, awsome.I was gonna ask you about that.Speedfan is sometimes not reliable, but if it's matching the bios monitoring temps, close, then it's doing it's job.




Well, with everything I can tell, it almost sounds like your motherboard has issues !!! Now look at the picture below, if you see anything that looks like those bad ones, your motherboard is gone! But, sometimes, their not visible !!! I can also be a bad resistor or any of the onboard componate.

Either way, I'll wait to see what you found about your motherboard...


OK SO LET'S LOOK AT A MOTHERBOARD WITH BAD CAPASITORS.


NOTE: THE YELLOW ARE BAD ONES, WHILE THE BLUE ONES ARE GOOD.

NOW KEEP IN MIND, THEY MIGHT NOT BE SCORTCHED, BUT BLOATED ON SURFACE.


UPDATED----->ALSO CAN LEAK FROM BOTTOMS INSTEAD OF TOP !

JD

[Marcin]

Wow JD ! these swollen capacitors have no right to work. I have digital multimeter for swollen capacitors and checking from time to time . In fact these items can looks perfect but have capacity 80% or less like these ones which I found last time - had 30%.

Best way is desoldering them and check by multimeter.

PS. Of course only these around CPU (especially highest ones)

[Guest]

from close inspection i cant see anything wrong with the capacitors on the motherboard.

and i dont have a thermometer available at the moment

[jd]

Ok, that doesn't mean that it's good , but I would think that by the follow-up of what you said --->"put another CPU on the board and it ran at 80'..." My guess is thers something not right with this board




JD

[gshv]

My guess is that there is something wrong with your temperature sensor. 81 degrees measured underneath the CPU translates to 110+ degrees of die temperature. The CPU will die if it was for real. So, in my opinion your sensor shows at least 20 degrees higher temperature than it really is. If this is true then your Athlon XP is running under full load at 52 degrees, which is ok.

Gennadiy

[Guest]

well i hope that your correct =]

[jd]

...hence why I was saying there's something wrong with the board...Very well could be the heat censors ...aka Motherboard problem, doesn't mean that your CPU is bad, but if the MB is faulty, other aspects of the board might start letting go soon too



I'd change Motherboards to be safe and to preserve the life of the AMD...I'd rather know what REAL temp my CPU is running at, then just guessing in 10'- 20' degrees intervolts...but that's me ...



I'll give you a final exam from what I know:

Keep in mind that the onboard measurement facilities are often inaccurate and may report temperatures that are too low. This is especially the case with motherboards that use a thermal sensor below the CPU to "guess" the CPU temperature. The temperature values displayed by the BIOS have usually a correction value added, to compensate for this problem - but in some cases this correction value may be too low, or the sensor might not be in good contact with the CPU.

This means: If the maximum allowed temperature for your CPU is 95°C, and your motherboard reports a CPU temperature of 90°C, then you are not on the safe side.



Cheers !


JD

[Guest]

well at the moment i dont see the point in buying a new board for an ageing system, as i could probably buy a socket 754 + cpu for just a little bit more. for now ill keep it as it is and maybe buy a new cooler. if something does happen to it then i guess im gunna have to buy another pc.


thanks for everyones help =]