How to Remove chips/processors from PCB?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't heating the entire board to 180 degrees do damage to the core if the maximum rated temperature for storage is a lot lower? I tend to think that the extremely fine wires used to connect the core to the poins on any chip will potentially vaporise at a much lower temperature than a lump of thje same metal...

That's why I tend to agree with a heatgun or blowtorch (although a blow torch isn't my preferred option, flames can do more damage than hot air...)

Of course, if a chip is assumed dead in the first place, an oven cannot make it any deader Smile

Mind you, I ahve only recently started considering desoldered chip to be collectible, so I'm sure my opinions on this will change in the close future, as I come across more boards to remove chips from Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

debs3759 wrote:
Wouldn't heating the entire board to 180 degrees do damage to the core if the maximum rated temperature for storage is a lot lower?


No, ICs can withstand quite a bit higher temperatures for brief periods. Aluminum bond wires certainly won't be vaporizing, even with its relatively low melting point compared to other metals. You'd be amazed at what tortures tiny mechanical and electrical components can endure.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I desoldered 286 in PLCC from PCB and cleaned from tin ... it works perfect on other motherboard.

PS. I used heatgun as always.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't heating the entire board to 180 degrees

I heat PCB to temperatures about 280-300°C and I don't have problems. All desoldered chips is working, all boards are in perfect condition Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's all good to know - it's going to ease some of the stress I have when I desolder chips Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I caught the tail end of a documentary on electronic waste last night on tv.. they showed rows of women in china sat in front of small hot plates. They were placing circuit boards on the hot plates to melt the solder, then removing the components - off all kinds of circuit boards. I didn’t recognise them but there were piles and piles of components and boards of all kinds for stripping and the components for sorting. The workers had no respiratory protection or protective clothing. Some just used their hands. Sad

The hot plate method looked efficient, but about 200 years out of date in working practices.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got myself a Grizzly H0801 heat gun and a box of Sun and Apple daughter boards that are in various states.

Our local college surplus is insane, lots of cool stuff. I really wish I new more about some of the old 1960's, 70's and 80's equipment because they seem to have alot of old stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do the over method, and also assemble stuff the same way Very Happy
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