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xsecret
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 Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject: "Not for Resale" Pentium II Processors |
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Hi,
I found one interesting marking on a Pentium II 233. I used to see tons of Pentium II, but i never saw a Processor with this "Not for Resale" marking. Look at this (a standard P2-266 and the P2-233 "Not for Resale") :
Perhaps it's a a rare "QS" (Qualification Sample).
What do you think about it ?
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gshv
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That's the first time I see a processor marked "Not for Resale". I don't think it's an QS unit, as the processor has an "Sxxx" sSpec number, which means it's a production unit. It's probably an evaluation unit (free sample) that Intel sent to customers.
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xsecret
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redbaron
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: | | That's the first time I see a processor marked "Not for Resale". I don't think it's an QS unit, as the processor has an "Sxxx" sSpec number, which means it's a production unit. |
It is indeed strange to see two Spec numbers on one CPU -- it has an S-Spec and an "Engineering Sample" Q-Spec. 
Genna, could you post a picture of the top markings of your PII-233 ES? Then we could directly compare the two different ES types. Probably it's got printed "Intel confidential" on top, right?
I second Genna's theory that this is a kind of evaluation sample. Intel's Spec Update for the PII lists the SL264 as the first "real" production type. Another clue to back this up: The topmost line of printing is at a slightly different angle than the bottom two lines. This lets me think it is an early production version relabeled as an Engineering sample. Nice!
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gshv
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| redbaron wrote: | | Genna, could you post a picture of the top markings of your PII-233 ES? Then we could directly compare the two different ES types. Probably it's got printed "Intel confidential" on top, right? |
No, it doesn't have "Intel Confidential" on it.:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/80686/Intel-Pentium%20II%20233%20-%20DC80522PX2335EC%20%28ES%20top%29.html
My second DC80522PX233512 processor doesn't have it either. Other Pentium II ES processors in my collection do have "Intel Confidential".
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xsecret
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| redbaron wrote: | This lets me think it is an early production version relabeled as an Engineering sample. Nice!
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Yes, I think that's something like that.
I will ask some friends working at Intel on Monday.
FYI, when they give me this CPU, I saw some other like this one. Perhaps i can try to get another one or two for trading. That's an interesting piece.
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gshv
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Another "Not for Resale" processor:
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eddaweaver
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:18 am Post subject: Re: "Not for Resale" Pentium II Processors |
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Intel made a big marketing blizt at the time about the PII, and did send out some sample chips to dealers to try and get them selling the thngs. I bought a PII system at the time, and had to take it back because they'd given me the shop's Intel PII sample chip by mistake, and had to return it to Intel; the particular chip had unique markings, possibly this "Not For Resale" line.
He accidently fried the motherboard when putting the new CPU in (not acustomed to Slots as they were new then), and ended up replacing the motherboard too. The poor man didn't make a cent from me. |
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Simmayor
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Hi,
Although i do not have a Not For Resale PII, i found this one:
As you can see is has the Q-spec but also ES. Does anyone know what this means?
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gshv
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| Simmayor wrote: | | As you can see is has the Q-spec but also ES. Does anyone know what this means? |
It's an engineering sample.
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