Need help with FSB? Upgrading from AMD Socket A M810L V7.1

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Need help with FSB? Upgrading from AMD Socket A M810L V7.1 Reply with quote

Hi, my processor on the above board is a AMD Duron 1.10GHZ. I'm planning to upgrade this to the fastest processor I can, which I understand to be the Athon XP 2600+.
Having looked on an auction website I see that all of the processors state a 'Front Side Bus' speed of 333MHZ. However my PC Chips manual states 'Supports 200/266MHZ' FSB.

Are these processors compatible with my board?

Will I notice a decent difference in speed?

Can I use the cooling fan on my current processor for the new one, or will I need something with a bit more 'umph'

Any help would be appreciated. I'm not exactly PC illiterate, however I've never upgraded a processor before and would just like to squeeze a little bit of extra power from my PC before I resign it to the bin!

Kinds regards,

Mike.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

333 MHz FSB CPUs will be definitely not supported by your motherboard. There are also Thoroughbred core Athlons on FSB 266 MHz - 2600+. They are harder to find but use eBay to find best price.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, I bid and won one off eBay for £40. Maybe I've paid too much, but there didn't seem to be any 266MHZ ones for sale.

Still have one question, will my existing heat sink/fan work ok with the new processor?

Kind regards,

Mike.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a new one, you should still be able to find one in any pc shop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ cooler: if it was a good one (copper), you may keep it, there's not too much difference in these 2's heat dissipation ( 46 / 62 typical)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote

Thanks for all your help with my upgrade question. I received the chip yesterday and fitted it within minutes. At first it was only running at 1600, but a fiddle with the BIOS settings changed this to 2600+.

The heatsink appears to be a chunky aluminium one with a fan mounted on top, I assume that because it clips securely to the top of the chip I do not require any thermal paste??

I note from a previous reply that a copper heatsink/fan would be better, would you still advise this, or would my current one be fine.? I only use my PC for around 2 hours each day, it's not on constantly.

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Mike.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks! Reply with quote

Mepmoop wrote:
The heatsink appears to be a chunky aluminium one with a fan mounted on top, I assume that because it clips securely to the top of the chip I do not require any thermal paste??

I guess it's because you don't run any CPU-intensive applications, lile games, for long period of time.

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I note from a previous reply that a copper heatsink/fan would be better, would you still advise this, or would my current one be fine.? I only use my PC for around 2 hours each day, it's not on constantly.

If the processor runs with your current fan/heatsink without thermal paste then I would use existing fan/heatsink and just add thermal paste.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, have just checked my BIOS and after 30 minutes of using my PC the temp of the CPU is 59 degrees C and the system board temp is 39 degrees C. Is this ok??
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too high... apply some thermal paste.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, well, I added some paste and the temp has come down to 54 degrees, not exactly a massive decrease, but in the right direction anyway.
Doing a Google search it seems that these chips tend to run hotter than others and a temp this high isn't that unusual. I'll keep my eye on it, but I don't think I'm going to buy another heat sink/fan arrangement. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an athlon 1400 running at 57°C on full load, with a huge h/s designed for xp 3200+, with silver grease.


Had to take it down to 1000 mhz and 100 fsb, now stable at 35°C full load and a massive core undervolt... that took the temp way down.

Athlons tend to be hotty, specially first core designs.



Looks fine after all, try not to keep youe fingers on it for 4 hours straight though Wink LOL

If you can grab a copper heatsink for a few bucks, or know some friend of yours selling it, think about it... at least it'll be kept cool.



Come back some times, check the site. Bye.
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