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Marcin
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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: Nex..t Nex...gen |
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| Quote: | | Now I promise do tests of PF100 and PF110 to end this week. |
I couldn't set P110 settings by jumpers on my motherboard. Highest value was P100 - propably my mistake but you all know that is hard to set correctly without any manual and prints on PCB.
I got to know that PF Nexgens are getting hot very quickly and they don't want to boot up when they are not chilled  We talking about high temperature in range about 50-60 degrees (touching by my fingers). I used small aluminium heatsink with medium speed 5x5cm fan without thermal paste (to not get dirty  ) When I paused booting at first screen and CPU got hot then let it forward I got message : keyboard error. I'm sure it was caused by high temp.
This test confirm old theories about not stable Nexgens.
On both CPUs numeric processor was detected.
Two of mine Nexgens (PF100 and PF110) were booting and showing these screens :
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Marcin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Windmiller wrote: | | Where did it come from? |
North Richland Hills, TX.
Someone have Nexgen P120 (silver heatspreader) ?
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Nice find! I hope it works
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experience2003
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I can not see your picture.
hou much you buy it? |
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Marcin
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| experience2003 wrote: | | I can not see your picture. |
Picture is loading here.
| experience2003 wrote: | | hou much you buy it? |
Very expensive CPU.
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i see it,thank you.
very expensive?1000$?i have never seen it in my country. |
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Marcin
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experience2003
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| oh,god!200usd,it means amost 1700yuan in china,my mother makes 3000yuan a month. |
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Marcin
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added some screen shots 
Maybe we will test these CPUs in some programs to have knowlage about performance.
Gennadiy do you need results to upload on your website ?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Nex..t Nex...gen |
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| Marcin wrote: | | I couldn't set P110 settings by jumpers on my motherboard. Highest value was P100 - propably my mistake but you all know that is hard to set correctly without any manual and prints on PCB. |
I'll dig out the PCI motherboard jumper settings tomorrow and post it here for you.
| Marcin wrote: | | Two of mine Nexgens (PF100 and PF110) were booting and showing these screens: |
I noticed your BIOS is quite old. That may add to problems with faster/later NexGen CPUs. You should update to the latest version, p06y034q, contained in http://www.memotech.franken.de/NexGen/Pack/updtpi31.exe.
Also, faster Nx586s need very fast cache RAMs. This could also be the limiting factor. What is the speed of your cache SRAMs? |
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Marcin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'll dig out the PCI motherboard jumper settings tomorrow and post it here for you. |
Thanks !! that will much help me.
Sure I will update ! If will be something wrong then I will program backup
| Quote: | | Also, faster Nx586s need very fast cache RAMs. This could also be the limiting factor. What is the speed of your cache SRAMs? |
I read topic on cpu-museum.de forum and faster Nexgens need faster cache - best 10 ns. I have soldered Etron Tech 12 ns 
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Marcin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Nex..t Nex...gen |
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| mtx500 wrote: | | http://www.memotech.franken.de/NexGen/Pack/updtpi31.exe |
I suspect P06Y034Q.PRD is BIOS backup. I can change extension to .bin and flash manually ? If yes I will use uniflash (don't want remove sticker and use programmer).
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Nex..t Nex...gen |
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| Marcin wrote: | | I suspect P06Y034Q.PRD is BIOS backup. I can change extension to .bin and flash manually ? |
Yes, this file is the BIOS image (128 KB size).
If you get to run the board with a slower Nx586 (or a slower speed setting), you can also program the BIOS in-board with the FLSHPF30.EXE program contained in updtpi31.exe.
I also have your older BIOS version and some other versions, so don't worry - you can always go back.
| Marcin wrote: | | If yes I will use uniflash (don't want remove sticker and use programmer). |
No need to remove the sticker: The PCI board always uses the SST29EE010 Flash EPROM chip. |
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