AMD VS Intel specs inquiary

[Glavial]

Hey I have been looking at cpu's rescently and when i started looking i had a preferance for intel but after looking aorund i have begun to prefer amd's becasue overall they seem to offer just as good if not better performance than the intel cpu's and they usually cost alot less. But one thing that is troubleing me is that i have encountered alot of people who are telling me that intel cpu's beat amd cpu's simply because they are intel. and example of the situation: im looking at 3ghz dual core processor so i am looking at the amd am2 6000+ dual core which has a 3ghz clock speed and the intel e6850. the fsb on both cpu's is 1000mhz(but i have even seen a couple of cpu's with 2000mhz strangely the amd ones are alot cheaper....) the but the intel has 4mb L2 where as the amd only has 2mb L2. So which cpu would be better and by how much? does 2mb of L2 really make such a difference? the price difference on these chips is quite extreme the amd one rangeing from $145 to $324 depending on where you get it and when compared to the intel which costs $321 to $371 also depending on here you get it. i am just using these cpu's as an example because they both have such similar specs but you can get the amd one much cheaper. is there some secret factor that makes the intel chips great or what? accoring to what people say the intel chip out of this pair would be much higher powered and smash the amd but i cant see how. I have even sen some amd phenom quad core that have the exact same fsb and L2 as some intel quad core with identical clock speed and yet the intel chip cos shitloads more than the amd chip and again people claim the intel one is better but how? Is there some magic that makes intel cpu's better than amd cpu's? because if the fsb, clockspeed and L2 are the same what makes the intel chips so great? any information/help you could give me would be really appreciated.

[Unzlbunzl]

check

[glavial]

yes i see those benchmarks but i have also seen other sites that seem to have the same tests and benchmarks btu with different results putting hte amd's on top instead of the intel's and wat not. i am trying to find if there is any scientific non-biased evidence of one brand being better than the other not in spcs but by measurement ie is one better even tho by its specs say it should be worse? or are the specs accurate and describe the performance of the part as i have found "evidence" supporting both of these both in favor and against the favor of both amd and intel

[debs3759]

Which is better will be dependant on a number of factors. Among them is what sort of work the processor will be doing.

A processor which is twice as fast as a second when executing mainly integer instructions might be half the speed when executing mostly SSE instructions, for example. This will, in practice, make one better for general office apps, while for gaming it would be the other way around.

To get an answer for a specific type of PC, that is possibly one of the biggest things to tell people - do you want the best games machine for your bucks, or something for a powerful database system, for example? It's worth reading up on which benchmarks veer toward which range of applications, if you are looking for a general idea rather than just trying to compare 2 or 3 processors.

It's also worth noting that whoever produces the best processor for your buck this year might not be the best next year (so last years benchmarks might not be as accurate for a more up-to-date core of the same processors).

In general, for two processors of the same type, more cache at any level will lead to faster performance. This doesn't necessarily follow when comparing two processors from different manufacturers though, as it also depends on how many clock cycles a processor executes any given instruction in, and a number of other factors, which is why there is such a difference between what is best for one type of work and what is best for another...

[andamus]

Hi,
athlon x2 are better than pentium 4, core2duo are better than athlon x2 and core2quad are better than k10/phenom. An X2 6000+ can fight vs a C2D 6300 but on multimedia progs Amd cannot beat c2d. Intel fsb are 800/1066/1333 Mhz depending on models

[Glavial]

So if i was to use my computer for gaming then what type of processor woudl be best? Does one brand beat another in videogames? If i wanted to run the latest greatest games like crysis for example what brand would it be best to get?

[D.8080]

Intel core 2 duo.

[Glavial]

but what i want to know is wat makes the core 2 duo better? say i get a amd dual core and a core 2 duo. wat makes the core 2 duo better for gaming? wat factor changes it?