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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: How to make backup of web site Reply with quote

I have web page based on joomla cms. My control panel of domain is cpanel 10. Always is something wrong with our server and I loosing updates and files. Do you know how to make backup of web page and backup of account aconfiguration (cpanel) ?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help with your question, but have one myself.

Is there a problem with your site? It seems like a few months since I could access anything on the site (including the link in your sig).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they were moving server in summer. Now they changed server. I lost database configuration and my files on hdd were useless so I wrote to administrator and then they restored to moment when it works. So I decided to keep backups at my own.

EDIT: I read that backup option is only available if admin accept. I wrote email to them.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would change the company that you use for hosting if I had that problem. When you pay for a service, you don't expect them to destroy your data and not have a back-up! You certainly shouldn't be responsible for uploading your site each time they do an upgrade, if it worked fine before!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you are right. One thing keeps me with that company - 10 GB space and costs 10 EUR per year. But my patience is almost end.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcin wrote:
Yes you are right. One thing keeps me with that company - 10 GB space and costs 10 EUR per year. But my patience is almost end.


With that price its probably why you have problems... Often you get what you pay for Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: How to make a back-up of my website, personnal experience. Reply with quote

Marcin, here are a few things including experiences on
how to back-up a website or fail to. One of the things
I do to back- up a website is the same as how I
back-up my regular computer. I separate out the
files by hand, sorting them and removing the un-
neatnesses. I use Roxio 5 to put them onto a CD
or DVD (plain data disk) renaming them and making
pencil and paper notes as I go along. By far, by far,
the biggest most common virus problem I run across
is files getting renamed often with hidden capital
letters end- names. So I just rename them into
perfect DOS- type or Macintosh- type file names
just renaming them right in Roxio 5 just before
clicking the record button. Since most back-ups
especially daily ones, are smaller than 250 or
even 100 MB, a zip floppy data back-up is even
easier, stupefyingly easy because it next- to always
requires "no" (no extra) software at all, not even
Adaptec/ Roxio. I next then try to back-up
the entire "on- the- air" website display onto a
CD or zip floppy maybe with no regard as to
whether I am posing as an administrator or
moderator, or not. My experience with it has been
all areas of success or ease or not, depending
on the website, mine or not, and what software
and "browser" is on the computer I am using at
the time, again, mine or not. Here, I get to
stress and repeat something I just said as a
huge shortcut to success or failure. If my own
computer at the moment is "the wrong man
for the job" this day, run across town to a
completely different computer with recording
media and try the task in it`s much different
environment. The easiest website back-up I
ever had (- a few months ago) was when I
copied the entire 2004- 2007 website of
"TheUncleFloydTVShow"- groups because
it`s domain owner had died. Since the group
always submitted typing not picture links, etc.,
the entire 3 years amounted to 11 MB which
I copied maybe through a USB memory
perfectly onto a CD with pure ease. It saved
the actual contents of every link everywhere,
something that almost never happens. One
checks the contents of the disk offline. You
might want to discuss with others whether
you might want to switch the operating system
and web software of your host computer to
something other than what you`re using now
at some time, especially if you`re using
Windows or obviously if you`re not getting
the results you want. OpenBSD and Fedora
core 6- 8 are possible host suites if you are
one of those with a brain "the size of a
basketball" or otherwise get ahead of the
herd in the books and a good night`s sleep
instead of a college education, department.
Although "doing it small" is far harder than
the regular way, it`s possible to web- host
(serve) off of a computer of your own if
you get past the snags that are always there.
Think of that computer as "a box" (fortress)
that gets hit with unreliabilities from the
outside. A lightning arresting inductor choke
on the power input including the ground wire
is a must. The same for an Uninterruptible
Power Supply (UPS) which should be quite
large. Hint, get a nice big one then install
brass wing nuts on it`s lid going to a
collossal external marine battery or maybe
a large nickel- cadmium wet- cell battery
and a little hydrometer on the side. Gel-
cells are "out"! Now go to the other end
of the machine and make sure it`s
data connection to the world is also
lightning- proof. If you, like most of us, can`t
afford an infrared wires and card link, even
if it`s 2 feet long ( = often cost`s a week`s pay),
one might simply unplug a light network
cable around the times of thunderstorms
and switch to webbing off a wireless card
with the co-operation of a neighbour and
his router during thunderstorms, and (etc).
"What`s the best antivirus software?" is
already a topic near here, however we
sometimes ""act professional" and ask,
""What`s the best FIREWALL?". (Answer,
often none. How about buying a bootloader
appliance for rebuilding or reloading your
"suites" instead? Backing- up your
website or important computer plainly
twice a day instead of once catches huge
numbers of "trends" attacks. Sequential-
back-up software is something wonderful
that I unfortunately know nothing helpful
about at all. One keeps identical spare
parts for host computers if it outweighs
part of the maintenance or back-ups. I
sometimes store my most important texts
by typing in DOS\ EDIT or writing in pencil
onto gridded paper. A quick technical note
about installing a DVD recorder onto my
computer with Roxio 5: My experience
always is, that it takes a full plain 2 minutes
for Roxio to detect the drive.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Found the link to the mysql software i was looking for...)

For dumping the database i have used this http://www.mysqldumper.de/en/ . If you are allowed to run a cron job, this can dump your database every day/week or so. Otherwise you have to do it manually. If you have access to the database password and other credentials?

When i was in cpanel 9 at my previous provider i made a small cron job that .gzipped the contents of the public_html directory where all my sites where and put it so that my home computer could get it via FTP. On my computer i ran Cobian backup that once a week downloaded the gzipped file via ftp (which also contained the mysql dumps)

The command was "tar czf backup/site.tgz public_html" and i put that as a cron job. I have no idea if that will work on your provider and you have to modify with your directory names and paths. Be aware that this takes CPU!. I had shell access to my site so i could test the command before trying to run it in cron.

Otherwise you just have to download the site with FTP every day/week manually i think.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a back-up of my website, personnal experienc Reply with quote

Fred Jodry wrote:
Marcin, here are a few things including experiences on
how to back-up a website or fail to. One of the things
I do to back- up a website is the same as how I....


Confused

Dude, a little formatting and a couple line breaks would make that readable.

Also, are you using a 640x480 monitor or crafting CPU-World forum replies on a Gameboy? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a back-up of my website, personnal experienc Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Confused

Dude, a little formatting and a couple line breaks would make that readable.

Also, are you using a 640x480 monitor or crafting CPU-World forum replies on a Gameboy? Laughing

I don't think your words will help a lot.

There was a quite unpleasant discussion not long ago.
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8203
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a back-up of my website, personnal experienc Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Fred Jodry wrote:
Marcin, here are a few things including experiences on
how to back-up a website or fail to. One of the things
I do to back- up a website is the same as how I....


Confused

Dude, a little formatting and a couple line breaks would make that readable.

Also, are you using a 640x480 monitor or crafting CPU-World forum replies on a Gameboy? Laughing


LOL, I was writing a really long message to try and say what you just said in a couple of short lines (AND PARAGRAPHS - did you spot that Fred?)

It's a shame when someone puts time into such a long post and then it doesn't get read as much as it would if it were easier to read Idea

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Paragraphs and Gameboys. Reply with quote

I will have to get used to writing into the web in
paragraphs. My regular background in reading
and so copied, in writing and publishing has to
do with the fact that my most common source of
reading is from Victorian (mostly last, last century
or 1800`s) newspapers which were composed in
thin columns and in the way as though paper were
worth it`s weight in gold. Newspapers were things
bought expensively monthly or twice monthly,
were extremely educational and not thrown out,
and spent their travelling time by being delivered
by boys on horseback not men in Mercedes, and
continued their eventual travels when moving, in
wagons next to kegs of salt and equally good read
ing hard cover books. I always hope people take
the time to read what I write more than once and
use it more than once.
NEXT PARAGRAPH (Or rather, quick note,
paragraph titles or breaks in Victorian
newspapers were printed in small case letters,
and small). PP. Although, not common in
Cpu-World Bulletin Board, some people
still use few- lines monitors. For one thing,
the old monitors usually use half the wattage
(amperage at same voltage) as the high-
resolution monitors. They also don`t gobble
your entire table space. The empty right- side
area of gray on the high- resolution
monitor can make a person nervously think
that data bandwidth is being wasted there
however it isn`t. Please get used to using
the up and down arrow keys or a scroll
wheel on a scroll mouse for good navigating.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a back-up of my website, personnal experienc Reply with quote

JAC wrote:
Fred Jodry wrote:
Marcin, here are a few things including experiences on
how to back-up a website or fail to. One of the things
I do to back- up a website is the same as how I....


Confused

Dude, a little formatting and a couple line breaks would make that readable.

Also, are you using a 640x480 monitor or crafting CPU-World forum replies on a Gameboy? Laughing

He just edited his reply in the Quick-Reply Edit-box!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to you all for suggests (especially to Fred Wink ) I will create dump files as CPUSwe said.
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