Most energy-saving CPU für socket 478?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Most energy-saving CPU für socket 478? Reply with quote

Hello.

I run a Tyan Tomcat i7210 with a P4 2.8GHz CPU (Northwood). I don't need much computing power, because I plan to run it as a Router, NAS, etc. and for that the power consumption is too high.

I looked for alternatives but depending on the compatibily list my current CPU seems to be the most energy-saving CPU. :/
Link: tyan.com/support_download_cpu2.aspx?socketid=2 (http://.www removed for guest restrictions)

Is there a chance to run a more energy-saving CPU as those which are listet in the link above?

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentium 4 2.4 GHz has lower power than the 2.8 GHz. Celeron D 2.26 may have even lower power.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with a Mobile Pentium-4 M Very Happy 35W all the way.

I would not recommend a Celeron M- MArginal power savings with significant less performance. There are programs available which can alter the multiplier down in Windows, during idle use.

If possible, get a slow one, and undervolt it, as low at 1.1V for reasonable power savings.

I would recommend a MP4M 2.4Ghz, should be at a reasonable price, or get a slower one and save a few bucks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought a Pentium M isn't compatible with boards, designed for common P4 CPUs. Or why has ASUS offered special adapter kits for their P4 motherboards? Of course, it would be nice. Very Happy

@gshv
Well, I think my question wasn't precisely enough. Sure, a 2.4GHz P4 has a less power consumption but my primary thought was to use a CPU which isn't listed in the compatiblity list but could/should also work.

Regards and thanks for the replies so far.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your motherboard doesn't list any 400 MHz FSB processors as supported, so Pentium 4-M may be unsupported. If the ASUS CT-479 adapter works on your system then it would be the best solution for you, and certainly much better than Pentium 4-M.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the board doesnt list support for 400MHz FSB...

But I know Intel designed the Mobile P4-M to be universally compatable with desktop processors, minus the heatspreader Very Happy

Honestly, I cant see any system supporting 533/800MHz FSB and not 400MHz.

And, Mobile P4-M are Northwood core.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wizzard1 wrote:
If the board doesnt list support for 400MHz FSB...

But I know Intel designed the Mobile P4-M to be universally compatable with desktop processors, minus the heatspreader Very Happy

Don't forget lower voltage of Pentium 4-M processors.

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Honestly, I cant see any system supporting 533/800MHz FSB and not 400MHz.

The i7210 is based on Intel E7210 chipset, and that chipset officially does not support 400 MHz FSB.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Intel SE7210TP1-E does.

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/cs-008322.htm

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Intel® Entry Server Board SE7210TP1-E and Intel® Entry Server Platform SR1325TP1-E is designed to support Intel® Pentium® 4 processors operating with an 800, 533, and 400 MHz system bus speed.


And because the board supports Prescotts, the voltage has to go down to at least 1.25V.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wizzard1 wrote:
The Intel SE7210TP1-E does.

Well then, it may support 400 MHz processors after all. Low-clocked Pentium 4-M CPUs are very cheap on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mobile-Intel-Pentium-4-M-1-5-GHz-laptop-CPU-SL5YT_W0QQitemZ290243205610QQihZ019QQcategoryZ99251QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-MOBILE-PENTIUM-4-M-1-6GHz-400MHz-PROCESSOR-SL5YU_W0QQitemZ170242416385QQihZ007QQcategoryZ99251QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

so if it will cost less than $10 to see if they work on the board or not.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You made me get out the datasheets Very Happy

Good find on those processors- The most power-savings will also be the cheapest!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never tested it but a Pentium-M shouldn't fit on a Socket 478 maiboard for desktop PCs although they are often discribed with "for Soket 468" in some advertisements. Afaik only the pin count ist equal, even 478. But they don't fit neither mechanical nor electrical on Socket 478 desktop mainboards without any adapter (like ASUS provides).

I'm really confused...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mobile Pentium 4-M is different from Pentium M. Pentium 4-M is in 478-pin package, the same one as desktop Pentium 4 processors, will fit into socket 478, but doesn't have an integrated heatspreader. Pentium 4-M has a few low-power features that are not present in desktop Pentium 4 processors.

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