Athlon 64 3000 socket 754 from notebook

[whitefox]

Quick Question, i've got a compaq laptop that seemed to have crapped out, most likely motherboard i'm guessing. And it's got this athlon64 3000 s754 on it. I dropped this into an ASUS K8N-E deluxe i have lying around and got it to POST. the problem is, it does a memory check and detectds ide/sata devices and then just hangs, anyone know if this is perhaps an issue with the chip or if there's just no support for mobile processors on desktop boards?

BTW: the chip is unlidded, if it helps

P.S. the asus site is an ever incresing pile of trash, slow as all hell, and doesn't seem to be very informative on their CPU support lists

[Marcin]

I have good opinion about ASUS web page because it support motherboard since 486s, have forum and is fastest from all motherboard manufacturers websites.

Backing to your question : do you have latest BIOS in flash rom ? If no then update it. This motherboard support AMD S754 mobile CPUs.

[Neon]

I had almost the same issue with a mobile athlon 64 socket 754 that was recovered from a notebook. In the desktop motherboard, it would power on, but the POST would hang. I had to reset the BIOS defaults by moving the clear CMOS jumper pin. Then, it booted to the OS with no problem.

The USA Asus website has been very slow and of generally poor quality for years. An Asus representative was at ROGCon a couple of weeks ago, and she mentioned that the website will soon be completely re-done. So we can hope for improvement.

[Wizzard1]

Most S754 motherboards dont support Mobile processors- Maybe the board freaks out after a few seconds. Can you get into CMOS:?

...And regarding Asus's site, it has ALWAYS been atrociously slow.

[whitefox]

thanks for the information guys, highly appreciated.

the main reason for my wanting to put this processor in this box is because it currently has a newcastle 2800 on it, and i've heard some bad stuff about the newcastle cores. The thing is that i have had no issues with the motherboard itself and i really wanted to make use of the siI 3114 controller, because my other option for this machine was a P4 prescott 2.4 on an sis 661FX/964 and the SiS raid utility is absolute crap. This machine is getting used to host a basic web site. Uptime is crucial though. And i manage this network remotely, so if the mirror loses a drive, i don't want to have to show up on site at 3:00 AM and do a reboot just to do a simple rebuild (assuming that the drive doesn't completely die).

Anyways, back on topic.

i have this machine on site at the moment, and it seems to be running ok with the newcastle, but i'm still weary about it. i remember reading somewhere that the 3000 was a clawhammer, and i know i've had no problems with them, and if i'm correct they've got 1MB cache. still got the clawhammer in my basement, gave the laptop another shot, still no go, so i've got an extra processor, now i think i'm gonna try and build another machine with it, besides i got some extra ddr400 that i could use somewhere.

to Marcin: I do like the coverage of all products on the asus site, the site is too slow at the moment and i don't like the lack of core information on the cpu support lists, even the msi site is better on old socket A 462 boards.

to Neon: good to know i'm not the only one trying this idea, can't remember if i even tried to clear the bios, if i have issues with the newcastle i'll give it a shot. Good to hear asus is taking the initiative to do something about the site, i've never had problems with asus hardware, but with a lack of support i don't see them as a viable option. Question: do you remember what motherboard you attempted this on?

to Wizzard1: That's what i was afraid of, if i remember correctly, i did get into cmos, just couldn't get past POST and device detect. hopefully the new asus site is better than it currently is.

Anyway, thanks guys, i hope the newcastle stays up and running, if so, i'll track down a cheap mobo that has support for the 3000, try and build a cheap nasty, as my old PII 266 print server is f@*&^d.

[Neon]

Newcastle was the next core after Clawhammer, don't know what's so bad about it, other than it wouldn't be my first choice for a new overclock0rz gaming machine.

Wizzard1 is correct that support for mobile cpus on desktop motherboards is hit and miss. I have a DFI LanParty nF3-250Gb, which seems to handle the mobile athlon 64, and it currently has a Turion MT-40.

If I remember the mobile a64 3000+ correctly, it would only run at the lowest multiplier, which translates to 800 MHz, until the AMD processor driver (AMDK8.sys) was installed. Then it would run at the maximum multiplier, which translates to 1800 MHz. The motherboard does not support PowerNow, so it just sat at 1800 all the time, which was ok.

[whitefox]

personally, no major issues with the newcastle other than sometimes dodgy responsiveness and performance. I've also had no issues with the nforce 3 aside from it's built in "RAID" controller. When you mention that processor driver and the frequency issue, if i am correct that's all due to Cool,n,quiet. which is pretty useless. and on the note of the newcastle, i've just heard some horror stories. some speculation of a bad memory controller on the web as well.

[Wizzard1]

I have a VIA-based mATX s754 board, which does support the Mobile Athlon 64 3000+ I have in it, albiet overvolted But it does NOT support the Turion 64 I tried to use with it, no POST.

I admit, it's kind of strange, you can POST but it fails. Do you have a POST analyzer? Short money on Ebay, and useful for troubleshooting POST problems.