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| Should the Group Buy and For Sale Thread be locked? |
| Yes it should be locked to contributing members only based on posts |
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| Yes it should be locked based on how long you have been a member |
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| No I think it should be open to everyone |
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el_gecko
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+1, especially against spying problems. Let's keep the community away from eBay speculators.
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johnorun
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Cpuswe wrote: | From my point of view the forum could also contain my list of ended ebay sales instead of publicly at chipdb.org, since this as it is now could damage the collecting community more, than it contributes, by giving out where to put starting bids to sellers.
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Good idea!! How soon can you make this happen? |
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johnorun
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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BY the way, is this thread open to public view now? 
Can it be restricted or moved to a new restricted access thread?
This discussion itself should be private as our ideas will mean little if the "evil Sellers" watch us plan these important strategies. 
Maybe we should use some CIA-KGB type security here...   |
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Windmiller
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| admin wrote: | We can restrict "for sale" forum in the same way as we do with the group buy forum. We can also "privatize" the "group buy", i.e. make it private and open it only to collectors. If we do this then we'll need a moderator - somebody, who would be willing to spend hopefully not much time managing access to the to the "group buy" forum. What do you think?
Gennadiy |
I am on the forums all day long and much of the evening so if you need a second moderator to help I would be honored. But I think John would be the best first choice  |
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Windmiller
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| johnorun wrote: | BY the way, is this thread open to public view now?
Can it be restricted or moved to a new restricted access thread?
This discussion itself should be private as our ideas will mean little if the "evil Sellers" watch us plan these important strategies.
Maybe we should use some CIA-KGB type security here... |
Good point |
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CPUShack
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Windmiller wrote: | | johnorun wrote: | BY the way, is this thread open to public view now?
Can it be restricted or moved to a new restricted access thread?
This discussion itself should be private as our ideas will mean little if the "evil Sellers" watch us plan these important strategies.
Maybe we should use some CIA-KGB type security here... |
Good point |
They can watch all they want, doesnt do them any good.
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smithy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I definitely think there should be restrictions, particularly with group buys. If the seller finds out we are bidding and can see the max price we are prepared to pay, the shill bidding will start.
I think a combination of # posts and time you have been a member will cut out most of the people we want to cut out, and leave this forum to the real collectors.
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gshv
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to post two polls - one about making "Group Buy" forum private, and another about closing access to "For Sale" forum for quests. Then, depending on poll results, we'll either change access to the forums or leave them as it is.
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gshv
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the first poll:
http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10510
I'm not sure yet about the best poll options for the poll related to the "For Sale" forum. That forum is visited not only by collectors, but by sellers too. What if we just purged all old threads from the forum so it wouldn't be possible to see the chip prices?
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el_gecko
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: | | I'm not sure yet about the best poll options for the poll related to the "For Sale" forum. That forum is visited not only by collectors, but by sellers too. What if we just purged all old threads from the forum so it wouldn't be possible to see the chip prices? |
IMHO, Sale section should be openned but Sales archives should be visible only by collectors.
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debs3759
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Jerome, keep the For Sale forum open for active sales, but have an archive visible only to collectors for viewing old/dormant sales.
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lither
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: |
I'm not sure yet about the best poll options for the poll related to the "For Sale" forum. That forum is visited not only by collectors, but by sellers too. What if we just purged all old threads from the forum so it wouldn't be possible to see the chip prices?
Gennadiy |
i would like to
keep forsale forum as it used to be
1. we need new seller to show us new and rare stuff
if the forsale forum is just open for collector and active user
i think new seller will disappear here and just put their goods on the ebay
2.i dont think price in the old thread will do too much damage too
price are usually lower in here than ebay
3.by the way , if it does make chips price higher
it is good for us , isnt?
i dont think there is any collector want his collection being cheaper than he paid... |
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Windmiller
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| lither wrote: |
1. we need new seller to show us new and rare stuff
if the forsale forum is just open for collector and active user
i think new seller will disappear here and just put their goods on the ebay
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I understand your point but over the last 4 years how often does a non-active member come in and sell nice/rare stuff? Not very often.
In my opinion it is a privilege to get to sell here.
An option could be a non-members For Sale section.
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3.by the way , if it does make chips price higher
it is good for us , isnt?
i dont think there is any collector want his collection being cheaper than he paid. |
If we are collecting out of passion then we DON'T want the prices to rise. I personally don't care if prices rise. |
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Chiefish
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Prices will rise automatically, as the chips become more and more scarce, the demand for them will of course go up. Look at collectible cars, the reason people will pay so much for them is because over time there are not as many to go around, especially if the new collectors want the older not easy to find chips. When people bought a DODGE Charger with a Hemi in it back in the early 70s they didnt buy it because it would be collectable, but today they will sell for Around a million dollars.
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debs3759
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| lither wrote: | 3.by the way , if it does make chips price higher
it is good for us , isnt?
i dont think there is any collector want his collection being cheaper than he paid... |
Anyone who makes money from selling chips will want the price to keep rising. Those who want to buy and have the collection they dream of, but do not have vast amounts of money or access to scrap dealers will not want prices to rise.
That does not mean anyone wants the value of their collection to rise, it means that rising prices only benefit those who buy in order to sell and who buy surplus to sell at a profit, denying others the chance to buy at the same low prices.
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