Intel C80386-ES

[gmphillips3]

The only problem with putting fake photos out is that they may get picked up by someone, perhaps a foreign collector who doesn't understand
it's a fake photo because he dosen't speak english (or whatever), and then he sends it to someone else and eventually it gets forwarded to me and ends up in my collectors guide:)

But seriously, since distributors don't list package and copyright varieties
on parts databases, the only way to "know" a chip exists in a specific package or with a specific copyright is to actually see one.

If collectors start flooding the net with pics of fake chips before they even really know what exists and what dosen't (new package and copyright varieties are still being discovered) then that will pretty much be the death of chip collecting because we will have made it impossible to
ever document what chips actually exist.

There's some asian sites that have lots of photos of vintage chips on them.
I've discovered some new copyright and package varieties on these sites.
Are the photos "real"? I don't know because I can't read Japanese, Korean, etc.

You might want to put the word "FAKE" or something like that in the photo before posting it so that some poor collector years from now dosen't end up spending 20 years trying to find the 'C8008' in a white ceramic package he needs to complete a full set of every known package variety of the 8008.

[Did2a]

HMMMM.... I think you're right.

Exemple. Many distributors list the Am8085ADCB without info.
It should be the rareful with Gold top and Intel Copyright or the common with AMD Copyright. The only way to do the difference is a good pict. I'll post a pict of the two version in a next topic Monday because a great confusion still exist on distributors listings and collectors identifications ( not all ).

We can be funny collectors but carrefuly and seriously.

So, I put the info "Fake" on my two picts and I decide to stop the game.
I have just made the C80386-16 because gennadiy ask for an withe C80286 pict found on the net somes weeks ago and one other collector started to joke about. The conclusion is : It is really easy with "Photoshop" or "Gimp" or any good program to invent fake cpu pict without any limits.

[skold]

i think we're giving ourselves too much credit.. though even a bad photoshop job could fool someone, the rest of us would figure it out sooner or later..

[xsecret]

I'm not sure.

Everybody noticed that cpu-world is used by sellers on many CPU auction on eBay for the CPU specs (with bad copy/paste of specs, including Engineering Sample).

There is lots of sellers who use google to find a picture of the CPU they want to sell...

[gshv]

[chipcollector]

I didn't see any of your cpu-world marked pictures yet, but I can remove almost anything from pictures using photoshop. Taking out trees, houses, and people can be done in 15 minutes. It takes some time, but If I were to sell a rare chip no one has, I'd do it. But ofcourse I wouldn't do something foolish like that.

[skold]

right .. if someone wants to put up an auction for a fake 'rare' cpu, they could easily crop out or photoshop out, or even superimpose their own logo, onto it.

i dont think its worth worrying about...

as for the people who use your pics, do they link to them or host them themselves? if theyre hotlinking, you can tweak your webserver to deny that

[gshv]