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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: How do i start a CPU collection Reply with quote

Any and all info is greatly apprecciated
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Just need some help Reply with quote

what are the price ranges
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$1 for a common 486 to well over $300 for a grey C4004 or a C4040
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only a handful of cpu's reach over $300, but don't worry about those. Really good ones are between $10-$50. You should look around at scrap yards to find old computers and boards, there lay a-plenty Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Starting a Collection Reply with quote

What you should collect depends on your collecting goals and how much you are willing to spend.

The single highest price paid for a CPU to date was $1,185.00 for
what was probably the best known example of an Intel C4004 w/gray traces on EBAY, May-18-2003.

A handful of other really nice C4004 w/gray traces have sold for $700-$900 over the last few years.

There are other chips that have sold for $500-$900 on EBAY and in private sales between collectors over the last few years, chips like the purple Intel C8080A, MC8080A/B, C8080, C8080B, and C4040.

If you are trying to build a world class collection and have $5K-$10K
to spend I would recommend going after the rarest chips first before
they become even more expensive.

If on the other hand, you want to work your way up to the really rare
chips, then start with the more common chips, look for deals, and make good trades.

Another option is to concentrate on PGA processors like the 80186 thru Pentium processors. Some of these are hard to find but overall, the prices are not as high as the 4004 thru 8088 processors.

The early non-Intel processors are also interesting. The prices are not
as high as the early Intel chips but this seems to be changing as more
collectors are collecting the early non-Intel processors.

The there's all the other chips. Many collectors only collector processors, but more are starting to also collect early RAM, ROM, PROM, EPROM, support circuits and microcontrollers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chiptalk wrote:
I agree, figure out what you want to collect, and how large you want your collection to be. Wink

It's easier to collect cheaper ones not only because they are easy on the wallet, but they are easier to find. Then work your way up.

I started with about a dozen, and now have about a thousand. CPUShack and Gennadiy both have well over a thousand. They also drive Lamborghinis. Just kidding.

Good luck!


I drive a Ferrari..in my dreams.

I have a large collection, which is hard to maintain, thus for a new collector I strongly would reccomend a focus as described above.

Some more interesting focuses:
a Brand (such as Motorola, or AMD)
an architecture (perhaps that has significance to you) like 29000, 68k, etc
FPUs
MCS51
Some collect only Engineering samples (ES whores Wink)
or 'upgrade CPUs' could be fun.

Make a want/wish list, this will help keep you focused, but don't let your focus keep you from grabbing a 'good buy' as you can use chips that arent for your collection to trade for ones you DO want.

You can use chipbrokers (like usbiid, or netcomponents) to learn about
some of the different variations of a particular CPU are (not always accurate mind you)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good advice above but if you want to get off to a quick start on some really rare chips then find some of the chips I am missing on my site and I will trade with you Smile I am missing a lot of common chips from the 1970s and will trade you a C4004 for even "P" and "D" version of chips that I don't already have. Of course this won't be a one for one exchange but you can find a lot of the chips I am missing for free or for very cheap.

I am looking for the chips in black on the main page of the link below.

Lee
gmanbc
http://www.vintagechiptrader.com/Collection.htm

Oh yea! The first thing you need to do is buy the Intel Collectors Guide sold by George Phillips. He should be putting it up for sale soon. Good Luck on you collection!
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wepwawet



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be patient, especially on ebay.

ok, this hint hurts me as a seller but it is as it is.
The very expensive chips are sometimes available very cheap, even when those cheap ones are not NOS (btw, I personally prefer the smell of use, NOS is not authentic for me).

Just an example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5167434679&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Contact sellers and work out trades, you may be surprised what you can save when you trade outside ebay.

When you decided what to collect post a wishlist - and it makes it easier for sellers when you post an offer, you may get more response then.

I needed four years from a situation like yours to become a seller of chips I never expected to own.

If you are interested, I make some pictures of cheap (because scratched, desoldered...) chips, old Intels and non-Intels (70ies and 80ies) that might be a interesting cruise through early packages and chip designs.

Last thing, however your collection will grow, enjoy it!
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