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Windmiller

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: Working Timna Desktop |
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Here we have a working Timna development board which has the unreleased Socket 370S running a Timna 533Mhz (QE90ES). After running a few applications against the CPU and board the only place you will see the word Timna is under a Diagnostic section of the BIOS called Timna Fast strap.
CPUID identifies the chip as a Banias. I ran a Timna 533Mhz (QE90ES) as well as a 667Mhz (QV18) and both were returned as a Banias.
Thanks to Susl45 for providing the Timna board!!
*Notice the missing pin on the bottom right hand corner. It is like this on all Timna CPUs
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Leevmeister

Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice setup  |
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Elar
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 746 Location: Tallinn, Estonia
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| What are the part numbers of chipset chips? |
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susl45

Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 3179 Location: CHU
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Wizzard1

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 930 Location: Boston MA USA
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Better than a strong black coffee and a pack of cigarettes combined.
That's a strong wakeup sign you have posted...
Benchmarks!
- noticed now, isn't the bus a bit too low? or just cpuz misreporting? |
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thomsonicus

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Nice! So the mobo would not accept other processors than the Timna because of the missing pin, quite interesting. _________________ Power without the price. |
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Windmiller

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| dume wrote: |
- noticed now, isn't the bus a bit too low? or just cpuz misreporting? |
Yea, it was interesting that is the speed it ran at before i went into the BIOS and changed it.
Good idea to run benchmarks. |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Being a test board, maybe it has fsb from low to high values free to set for cpu tests?
Strange stuff, easter eggs  |
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Wizzard1

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 930 Location: Boston MA USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I bet they may have planned on doing something with the different FSB settings, and 200MHz FSB was the next step up, heading towards the double-speed Athlon's FSB (Intel never liked 166MHz FSB). |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting, so maybe a pre quad-pumped or some other FSB new tech?
Or as you suggest just a move up? Is the architecture close to P4/other in any way?
Guess I have some googling to go about.
Some would ask "what about OC?" lol
I'm really curious to know how it performs on various tasks.
But tests to benchmark with different hardware would be very long.
If the trend keeps going like this we are close to P50... |
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Wizzard1

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 930 Location: Boston MA USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I'd be willing to bet it's just a faster clocked FSB, 815 could take 166MHz happily, it wouldn't be much of a stretch for Intel to take a stripped down version (No onboard video) and bump it to 200MHz.
I'd be hard pressed to say it's a double- or quad-pumped FSB at this very early age.
I think Banias was first used in the Sony u101 at the very early mid-2003 (a proprietary Banias Celeron 600MHz!), Banias itsself was released in May of 2003... Possible it's not hard to say that the development of the Timna was done by the same guys, and marked it with a similar label internally? |
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Windmiller

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1716 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Any suggestions on benchmarks to use? |
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andamus

Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 1029
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Wizzard1 wrote: | | Possible it's not hard to say that the development of the Timna was done by the same guys, and marked it with a similar label internally? |
Yes,
the design team of the Banias is the same team that have developed the Timna core, both core are a creation of the Intel Development Centrer located in Haifa, Israel.
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