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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlccomp wrote:
I'm not a big fan of auctions either but in this situation it's probably the best and more fair way to handle this. Smile


I agree. we live in a 24 time-zone world and, those in certain time zones would have a constant advantage over other members based on the times Gob listed chips for sale.

Auction takes more waiting to see if you won, but since this is a worldwide offering, I think an Auction is the fairest way for all. Smile (unless "Superfred" becomes a member!) Mad

I voted on the poll from Windmiller.

THANKS Gob for taking this on yourself in tough economic times! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck G0b, good job again Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windmiller wrote:

I do think that this sale should be closed to members who join just for this sale, so anyone joining from this announcement forward should not be allowed to buy from this sale. In my opinion it is not fair to the many collectors here who contribute to the community on a regular basis.

This brings back up the idea of closing our little community to price hunting Ebayers. Maybe there could be a minimum amount of posts and time before you could view and participate in the Sale section. I have recently spoken with a few IC sellers on ebay recently (2 of them very large IC sellers) and 3 out of 4 of them said that they have no idea of the price of many of there chips so to find out they find the highest price paid for that chip on Cpu-World and then list the chip for that price on Ebay. In this situation we are our own worst enemies. I really think this is something to be considered. I think to benefit from the sales and pricing threads you should be a contributing member to our community!!! Just my opinion but I have been wanting to voice this for some time because I think we are paying too much for chips. Chip collecting is still small and we should have better influence on pricing. While I know the price of gold is nothing we can influence but the rest we can.

I think poll might be in order for not only locking down Gob's sale to current members but also locking down the Sale & Group Buy forums where prices are discussed. Of course the rules for Gob's sale are up to him and the admin but a Poll would be interesting either way.


I have started a Poll Here

http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=70393#70393



Well said. I agree entirely with this suggestion! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe set a general rule of thumb that auction type sales must only be done when a very large quantity of chips is being offered. I dont think we see many sales with over 500 chips in them Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G0B: remember to get the pictures of every chip from the seller if possible when dealing with the him otherwise you might have to take photos one by one.

After you finished and get what you want, then let us do the massive bidding in debs's way? Or every one bid via PM?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done G0b. To have a couple of whole collections sold in a couple of months is quite amazing. Count me in for the sale process for any chips you don't want.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should proceed in this way :

1/ Someone interested in one chip creates a topic for it (e.g. Pentium Pro 150 non ES Smile) :
I'm interested in it. There are X pcs ...
2/ The moderator (an other person !) sets the time for the auction.
3/ We go on

I think it will take less time for g0b and for the moderators.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gigi wrote:
I think we should proceed in this way :

1/ Someone interested in one chip creates a topic for it (e.g. Pentium Pro 150 non ES Smile) :

There are 619 pcs in collection. Gob need around 15. Suppose we want 100-200pcs
That's mean 100-200 topics ?!?!
What about rest chips ?
I think sale style like Debs did is the best for both sides.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a Debs style auction but where the end time is +/1 hour to stop sniping?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smithy wrote:
What about a Debs style auction but where the end time is +/1 hour to stop sniping?
I like that.

You could set a tentative expected end time, but if somebody bids just before the end time (snipe), then the end time is extended by 10 minutes. If there is another bid, then another 10 minutes from that bid, and continue in this manner until there are no more bids.

So there is a "rolling" end time, the highest bid wins, and no sniping.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that was what I was calling "1 hour rule" . If a bid occurs let's say less than 1 hour before the end, auction is extended of 1 hour starting from this last bid. usually, it's more 15 minutes. Most auctions sites feature this (except ebay, for a reason I've never understood).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think very important to get clear pictures from CPUs and very clear rules for bidding, if possible to be at top of each group of processors.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ebay auction listing has ended.

i asked ferro, what happened with his collection (and maybe to buy some).

his answer:

> Hallo borris70,
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> hi, sorry, i've already sold all the cpus...thanks
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> -ferro9999

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Gob get them?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G0b has them. http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=70386#70386 Or more precisely, will get them next week.
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