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cedrik
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: Stupidity @ AMD |
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I have a Duron with weird specs and weird look : Duron 1300 AGOGA stepping .. http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17160
I asked on this forum about it and i got only some guesses ..so i decided to ask AMD suport... meanwhile i sent a request to add this CPU with this stepping in Cpu-wolrd's database...
first answer was short:
"Based on the photo provided, your proessor is a Duron 1300.
Please find the details below included for your reference:
Model: Duron 1300
Part Number: DHD1300AMT1B
Clock Speed: 1300 MHz
L2 Cache: 64 KB
FSB: 200 MT/s
Multiplier: 13x
Voltage: 1.75 V
TDP: 60.0 W " ..
I replied that its obvious that its an Duron 1300 and that my questions where about stepping and about its weird look ..
The answer was unbelievable:
"This processor has a Morgan core, which is based off Palomino.
More information about this processor can be found here:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Duron%201300%20-%20DHD1300AMT1B.html "....
On that link the stepping AGOGA of Duron1300's information is added because i requested it.. it is the only Duron with that stepping ..
I know that CPUWorld is the first CPU information source... but how can a company like AMD give references about a weird and somehow unidentified Cpu from an unoficial website? Instead of giving me anwers they gave me information that is there by my request ... |
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wepwawet
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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lol, by that way you can create your own processors and AMD stats its authenticity.
I remember an old fake pictures thread here:-))) |
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cedrik
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| if any of you have any ideea about this cpu pls help me:) |
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gshv
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote is from different thread:
| Neon_WA wrote: | | cedrik wrote: | | i check that list of Agoga stepping . |
it definitely was a Palomino core Athlon at some point.. just not sure if officially remarked or not
but I am leaning towards unofficial especially as date code is over a year past when that stepping & package number was last used |
I agree with Neon_WA. AGOGA stepping was produced until beginning of 2002, and the 27100 package was produced until the middle of 2002. Your chip was made in October 2003, so the difference is more than a year for the package, and year and a half for the stepping. It's likely the CPU was remarked from processor, that was produced in 2002 or earlier, which means that it was not remarked by AMD.
By the way, I temporarily removed AGOGA from the Duron 1300 page.
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cedrik
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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seems that this is the right answer .. its an unofficially remarked Athlon... but what i dont understand: if someone remarked it.. and changed 3 rows text, why didnt change the 4th row too.. the one with stepping ..
its an unsolved mistery ..
i'm still wainting an official answer from AMD 
thank you.. |
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debs3759
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of chip fakers rely on the fact that not everyone is able to tell or find out if something is genuine or not. When the chip was sold as new, it would have been sold to Joe down the road (ie it could have been anyone that originally bought it), and as long as it worked most people wouldn't know whether or not it was what it claimed to be.
If that wasn't the case, the fakers would have to do as much research as a lot of members here have done about different chips and steppings.
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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if you can do some good pictures of the bridges on the CPU I can probably work out what it was originally.
but I suspect more likely was a mobile rather than a MP
@neon.. yes plenty examples of officially downgraded chips, but in this case to many things going against it to be an official remark
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Neon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Neon_WA wrote: | if you can do some good pictures of the bridges on the CPU I can probably work out what it was originally.
but I suspect more likely was a mobile rather than a MP
@neon.. yes plenty examples of officially downgraded chips, but in this case to many things going against it to be an official remark |
Sorry, I didn't comprehend the issue at first. --> Stupidity @me 
I checked my AGOGA chips, and found one with date 0240. Seems likely a fake. What do you think? |
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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its a good one.. but yes it is a remark/fake
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gshv
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I would say it's a poor fake. It has a serial, and then stepping code 
Other things that are wrong with it: letter "A" is taller than "MD", non-standard font (too narrow), (c) on most (all?) XP chips was smaller than (m). Finally, it has a sticker in Chinese It's funny that most of my fake Atlhon XPs had similar stickers.
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Neon_WA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| gshv wrote: | | I would say it's a poor fake. It has a serial, and then stepping code |
I was looking at the tree... not the forest 
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