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whelenfan
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 34 Location: new jersey
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:22 pm Post subject: how collectable are es or confidential cpus |
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| Just getting started with the cpu collecting bug and I am wondering how badly I need to get an es for my collection... thoughts or insight? |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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They are pretty collectible as they in general were not for general release. So they are a bit 'special'
Some people collect them, and some don't (usually due to the cost)
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alvaro84

Joined: 17 Apr 2015 Posts: 80 Location: Fehérvárcsurgó, Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| After many years of collecting CPUs I still don't have a single ES. I'd gladly keep them I found one in the scrap, it's just that people rarely used ES CPUs on a daily basis and scrapped the system later. |
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Thandor

Joined: 06 Oct 2008 Posts: 461
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:42 am Post subject: |
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It's up to you if you need one or not . Engineering samples are more special than regular production models. Some engineering samples are really close to the final product and some are samples from the early development stages. I like those early samples because they can give insight in the development of a particular CPU. I.e. when did they first have a working sample? Are there crucial bugs? Does it have a fully unlucked multiplier? How does it scale? etc.
I'd also like to have working hardware; preferably early CPU's combined with early engineering sample motherboards. It's interesting to see that early Intel motherboards boot up with 'Intel(R) Pentium(R) 5' when you insert a Pentium D . _________________ thandor.net - hardware
And the rest of us would be carousing the aisles, stuffing baloney. |
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apa4

Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Posts: 394
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Im in with all the rest.
it's a matter of taste. _________________ !Ch@nge_Me! |
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whelenfan
Joined: 11 Nov 2012 Posts: 34 Location: new jersey
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| thanks everyone... |
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Some ES have features not present in regular CPUs like unlocked multiplier. Otherwise they are the same with more errata and lower overclocking. |
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Mr.Scott

Joined: 15 Jul 2014 Posts: 267 Location: Upstate NY USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | Some ES have features not present in regular CPUs like unlocked multiplier. Otherwise they are the same with more errata and lower overclocking. |
Not always lower overclocking.
The high leakage samples scream when you take them sub zero. |
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