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To-mig

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Marcin

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CPUShack

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JAC

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| hehe.. I got bored and took one apart too. Pretty rubbish really. |
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fRaSsL

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Everyone buying this shit will help to come more of (other maybe better) fakes. _________________ Frank. |
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JAC

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. |
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Hippo

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Fakes are a part of collecting, no matter what you collect. But some of the fakes become collectable in there own right, as a curious insight into the genre.
The problem comes when fakes are sold as the real thing, or when someone cant spot a fake. _________________ CPU-Me! Hippo's Collection Online |
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xi11west

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1526 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Why are you so mad with TCP package on PGA adaptor? There are PLCC package on PGA adaptor, QFP package on PGA adaptor, everyone is collecting them, are they fakes too?
The gold cover is for heat spreading purpose, and this chip marked clearly that it's a Tillamook.
What are your problems? |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| xi11west wrote: | Why are you so mad with TCP package on PGA adaptor? There are PLCC package on PGA adaptor, QFP package on PGA adaptor, everyone is collecting them, are they fakes too?
The gold cover is for heat spreading purpose, and this chip marked clearly that it's a Tillamook.
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The speed is faked. Its probably a 233 or 266, not a 300.
Pinkie has opened a 200...
Which is a 166
 _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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i440bx

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1349 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have a general problem with fakes:
A guy (who has nothing to do) makes a fake P1. For a test he sells it on ebay. He earns 100$ for "a never seen P1". Ten other guys (who also have nothing to do) do the same...
The end of the story is, that we have lots of fakes in our collection, although we want to collect the originals.
Who of you, has a fake BMW in the garage and shows this off??? "Yeah, i have a fake BMW in my garage, and you?" -> This it sh..t !!
The same thing is with CPUs, but in antother price range. (And NOT in the garage)
Robert _________________ i440BX
My collection: http://www.x86-guide.net/i440bx/en/collection.html |
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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There are two different fakes we are talking about here.
Fake type 1 Made at the same time as the original chip to cheat the customer och perhaps pc manufacturer selling a chip marked with a higher speed than it actually is.
A part of chip/computer technology history. No problem collecting. (For example in coin or stamp collecting there are similar fakes that is highly collectable)
Fake type 2 Made to cheat a collector in present time. Have we seen or suspected that these exists?
Should not be bought or collected. _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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xi11west

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1526 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't seen anyone purposely made a fake processor to cheat collectors. These chips are old stock and have been 10 years old. There is a difference.
So the topic has changed from package to speed. Apprently it's the speed that motivate that. It's a common trick that use laptop processors for overclocking. I saw one post in this forum that almost everyone is overclocking. You push the demand of overclocking cooling systems, motherborads, etc. When finally a overclocking processor comes out, then someone said "hey, it's not right."
You guys do have a sense of humor.  |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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fRaSsL

Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Posts: 1570
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Declaring a fake CPU for a overclocking CPU is a very good (Chinese) idea  _________________ Frank. |
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CPUShack

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