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lither



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: VIA C7 Reply with quote

hi, i got 2 VIA C7 last month
they are in PGA and pin-compatible with Pentium-M (of course need supportive chip such as VIA VN800 to use them )
however,the via website says that the VIA C7M is only available in BGA ....
i guess the VIA website is a little out of date
http://www.viatech.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m/
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting !
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, that's an uber-cool chip!

A shame it can't be tested in P-M board...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn that's nice...what clockspeed does it have? Does anyone know how it's performance is?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.5GHz, performance is fair, but it uses VERY little power
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lither



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dume wrote:
Dude, that's an uber-cool chip!

A shame it can't be tested in P-M board...

if your P-M used a VIA chip , it is quite possible to "downgrade"
the Pentium M CPU to the VIA C7
the previous owner of these C7 is "upgrade" their C7-M notebook
to pentium M CPU

below is a link to a Taiwan forum for how to upgrade the C7-M notebook LM7WV
(in Chinese but you could click the link inside to see the pictures of upgrading process)

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=159&t=192225
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32446


Seems like a good bios may give some help.

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Apr/fea20060428035806.htm


I like powersaving.


C7 looks good to me for what it gives, maybe it's like a cell phone with no goodies, but money saving is good for me.

Lither if you could get a desktop 479 would be fun to play with... Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dume wrote:

..........
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32446
.........

one of my C7 has print read as " 754 1500/400 0538CO"
and according to this link , my C7 should be called as C7-M 754 (vs the nanoBGA2 C7M)
thx for share!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are very slow. Per clock is worse than like a Pentium II. That 1.5 GHz is more like a 800 Mhz P3.

But yah they are very low on the power consumption. And they have a hardware-based encryption unit which is extremely fast for that purpose. I imagine the chip gets used in ATMs and schtuff cuz of that. And Walmart self-checkouts maybe!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow - that word not exist in describing VIA CPUs Wink
I don't need C7 at this moment but I use C3 1 Giga Pro BGA with integraded all peripherials on mobo to P2P connection. My energy-bill is higher for a few cents per month Wink For this I don't see better CPU from AMD or Intel.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they are undeniably very low power. I've always wanted one of those mini itx boards....
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: VIA C7 Reply with quote

lither wrote:
hi, i got 2 VIA C7 last month
they are in PGA and pin-compatible with Pentium-M (of course need supportive chip such as VIA VN800 to use them )
however,the via website says that the VIA C7M is only available in BGA ....
i guess the VIA website is a little out of date
http://www.viatech.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m/

followup
.....
a VIA guy told me
the 2nd chip (the one without speed mark)
is a C7 C5J (which is a very small print on the bottom of both chip ) N2 (i dont know why he call it N2 and there is no clue on both chips, he just say N2 version ) ES
.....
Lee
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

N2 is maybe core revision?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine couldn't install his printer drivers because the driver saw his 1.5 GHz C7-M as too slow. Smile Poor VIA and their lack of recognition.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone here used/tested a C7?
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