Strange C8008-1 processors

[gshv]

This auction was pulled from eBay shortly after it was posted:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5138588769

Take a look at the pictures. My first impression was they were fakes. Did anybody see markings like these before?

Genna

[CPUShack]

Not i, looks like the surface was cleaned and remarked.

[chip68]

Why am I not surprised?

"They were tested and are guaranteed to be funtioning"... Hmmmm. Yeah, right.

I'm amazed at how many of his chips are misidentified/mislabeled also. But then I already tried to warn you guys.

- CMW

[gmphillips3]

I think he returned them to the distributor. The distributor claimed they had been "tested" and verified to be 8008-1's but they would appear to have been remarked at some point in time.

My guess is they were chips that Intel sold unmarked to a 2nd source who marked them with some sort of house number or perhaps never marked them at all. They and eventually ended up in the hands of a distributor. When the distributor couldn't sell them cause they were unmarked or marked with some other number, the distributor had them stamped???
The back of these chips were marked 'USA' which would have sparked by interested if a distributor told me he had some C8008-1's made in the USA. Early Intel chips marked 'USA' are really rare. Christian Bassow has a C4004 marked 'USA' and I have an early Intel ROM marked 'USA'.

A few years back I found a chip marked SAB 8080AC with an Intel 'i' on it.
There's lots of "flukes" like this. I've got an Intel 1401 shift register where the '1' in 1402A is misprinted as 'i'. In otherwords, the part number is stamped 'i402A'.

When you buy chips from a distributor sight unseen, it's always a gamble
on what you'll get. Sometimes there's a reason those old chips have been
sitting on a shelf for 25 years:).

[chip68]

A friend of mine pointed out a few weeks ago that he had at least a dozen chips mislabeled as "rare" CPUs, RAMs, or ROMs which were in fact just run-of-the-mill digital logic chips (and in some cases, analog ICs). Since then he seems to be sticking to Intel only, no doubt because he has a few their old data books to look up part numbers in - one of which he bought from me, incidentally. Anyway, I'm fairly sure he doesn't have either the facilities or the know-how to test or guarantee anything. So caveat emptor...


About that misprinted 1402A - what's the date code on it and what kind of package, DIP or can? Just curious. I've seen all kinds of crazy markings on ICs; double-stamped, inverted characters, you name it.


- CMW

[chip68]

[gshv]

gmanbc listed one of those C8008-1 chips, this time he said they are refurbished:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5142407978&rd=1

In my opinion, the chip does look like it's a real re-labeled C8008-1.

Gennadiy

[chip68]

[gmanbc]

Guys,
I talked to George about these chips and I bought them from USbid. They are C8008-1s but the Chip broker cleaned/stripped them all and then remarked them (hince Refurbished). I can easily prove this by giving you my POC: ...@usbid.com Her name is Kim and I buy most of my chips through her and several other chip brokers. I did return some and kept several as they were probably worth quite a bit until they did this to them.

I would be more worried about dealing with c.webster than buying anything from me. I guarantee everything and if you aren't happy I refund all of your money!

Edited by admin: removed e-mail address.

[chip68]

[gmanbc]

I apologized to everyone for acting like a child, on a forum no less. I will not leave any more post reguarding this incident.

Lee
gmanbc

[gshv]

[xsecret]

So, some days after my post, some real "remarked" (or "fake") chips, started to appear "officially"...

[gshv]

[xsecret]

I mean "people now consider about the possibility for a chip to be "fake""