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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Working Timna Desktop Reply with quote

Here we have a working Timna development board which has the unreleased Socket 370S running a Timna 533Mhz (QE90ES). After running a few applications against the CPU and board the only place you will see the word Timna is under a Diagnostic section of the BIOS called Timna Fast strap.

CPUID identifies the chip as a Banias. I ran a Timna 533Mhz (QE90ES) as well as a 667Mhz (QV18) and both were returned as a Banias.

Thanks to Susl45 for providing the Timna board!!










*Notice the missing pin on the bottom right hand corner. It is like this on all Timna CPUs













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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice setup Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the part numbers of chipset chips?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, you finally succeed!
Great! well done!! Smile Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who made the board? Intel I assume?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, neat! The board resembles a Gateway Brookings board:

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/logicalplus_1996_30617012

It's a proprietary format.


Can you benchmark it? Do some 3d tests and processor tests?? I'm very curious!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better than a strong black coffee and a pack of cigarettes combined.
That's a strong wakeup sign you have posted...

Benchmarks!



- noticed now, isn't the bus a bit too low? or just cpuz misreporting?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! So the mobo would not accept other processors than the Timna because of the missing pin, quite interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dume wrote:




- noticed now, isn't the bus a bit too low? or just cpuz misreporting?


Yea, it was interesting that is the speed it ran at before i went into the BIOS and changed it.



Good idea to run benchmarks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a test board, maybe it has fsb from low to high values free to set for cpu tests?

Strange stuff, easter eggs Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet they may have planned on doing something with the different FSB settings, and 200MHz FSB was the next step up, heading towards the double-speed Athlon's FSB (Intel never liked 166MHz FSB).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting, so maybe a pre quad-pumped or some other FSB new tech?
Or as you suggest just a move up? Is the architecture close to P4/other in any way?
Guess I have some googling to go about.

Some would ask "what about OC?" lol


I'm really curious to know how it performs on various tasks.
But tests to benchmark with different hardware would be very long.



If the trend keeps going like this we are close to P50...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be willing to bet it's just a faster clocked FSB, 815 could take 166MHz happily, it wouldn't be much of a stretch for Intel to take a stripped down version (No onboard video) and bump it to 200MHz.

I'd be hard pressed to say it's a double- or quad-pumped FSB at this very early age.

I think Banias was first used in the Sony u101 at the very early mid-2003 (a proprietary Banias Celeron 600MHz!), Banias itsself was released in May of 2003... Possible it's not hard to say that the development of the Timna was done by the same guys, and marked it with a similar label internally?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any suggestions on benchmarks to use?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wizzard1 wrote:
Possible it's not hard to say that the development of the Timna was done by the same guys, and marked it with a similar label internally?


Yes,
the design team of the Banias is the same team that have developed the Timna core, both core are a creation of the Intel Development Centrer located in Haifa, Israel.


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