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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: when dreams come true..... |
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hi to all,
i got a really great email contact. if you believe or not, from now on i am
in good email contact with Federico Faggin
i have never thougt that this contact will be possible. i asked him for the
Pioneer 10 myth and about the 1701. i know the pioneer 10 myth is still
lifted, but i also want to hear his opinion.
and he told me some interesting things about the 1701.
so if one of you have a special question he is able to answer, let me know.
- _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome! Now you can nudge him everytime
you have a question!
My question would be if he knows how many
ceramic 4004`s have been sold or manufactured! _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Cpuswe

Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 2214 Location: Karlskrona, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! Nice indeed! _________________ My collection: http://www.cpucollection.se :::::: http://www.chipdb.org Photos of chips you never knew existed. Now over 6000 different chips in the database. |
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JAC

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 3469
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice Peter!
I want to know more about the problems with the hermetic seal.
What is the earliest chip with quartz window? Who made it. etc.. |
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Elar
Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 746 Location: Tallinn, Estonia
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| 1701/1702 story doesn't sound right. Both them have quarz lids and are UV erasable. And suppose the x-ray story is true, what is the difference between 1601 and 1701 then? |
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Chiefish

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 2153 Location: Northwest N.J. U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if he is confusing the 1601 with the 1701, because as far as i knew the 1701 and the 1702 are uv erasable And both have quartz windows where as the 1601 has the metal lid on it. _________________ "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." A.E. |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Chiefish wrote: | | I wonder if he is confusing the 1601 with the 1701, because as far as i knew the 1701 and the 1702 are uv erasable And both have quartz windows where as the 1601 has the metal lid on it. |
..i also think that. hmm i will ask him... _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Guys, could you be any hornier?
Well, Mr. Nusser I guess you scored very big!
And it's good to see how many people here actually know in depth about chips. |
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm just thought about the significance of Federico
Faggin in history of microprocessors. And.... no he
is not the pope! But he compares to Martin Luther I think,
hmm ok probably I should not smoke so much weed...
Anyway we guys can be happy that the designer of the first (commercial)
single chip cpu is still alive and Peter can bug him with questions now
Generations of CPU-collectors after us will probably cry
not to have the opportunity to get in any contact with him! _________________ Ordem e Progresso
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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doccybrown

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 1736 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Yes you are right, Z80 was and still is a very successful design.
But in what way would have Intel emerged WITHOUT that 4004?
Maybe no 8080 then because Intel never realized the potential
of CPUs? And then no 8086ers? Yes and then very likely
Motorola would have made it into the fabulous IBM PCs...  _________________ Ordem e Progresso |
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CPUShack

Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 34259 Location: State of Jefferson, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:49 am Post subject: |
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considering EPROMs were Intels biggest business until the mid 80s lol
The 8008 perhaps was the most important processor design Intel made (and they didnt want to make it at first), as it became the 8080, and Z80 and 8085 and x86 _________________ New for 2025! The CPU Shack has a co-processor!
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wepwawet

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 3019 Location: Seligenstadt - Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Hey, ask him why there is almost NO information about the 4040 available, esp. INTEL didn't mention it anytime when they made any historic information available (just remember their 15th aniversary brochure!)
Who is JOTIEL, lol _________________ You may use the photos I have posted here under CC BY-NC-SA license. |
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naked1300

Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Austria,
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| wepwawet wrote: | Hey, ask him why there is almost NO information about the 4040 available, esp. INTEL didn't mention it anytime when they made any historic information available (just remember their 15th aniversary brochure!)
Who is JOTIEL, lol |
...very good question, the 4040! _________________ INTEL CPU´s, Peripheral,Ram,Eprom... & many Datasheets @ www.cpu-galaxy.at |
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