Help in dating some early Intel chips (8008, 1702, C1101)

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collectorcraig



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Help in dating some early Intel chips (8008, 1702, C1101) Reply with quote

I have a very early Intel development system (SIM8-01) that I am trying to research. The chips with date codes range from June 1971 to April 1972 on the SIM8-01 board and from Nov. 1971 to Aug. 1972 on the MP7-03 Prom Burner board. However, the Intel chips don't have date codes (or perhaps I just don't know how to decipher them). Is there a way to figure out production dates? Here is a photo of some examples:



I think this is a very early system and when I searched for a plain 8008 CPU like the one on this board, I came up empty. Primarily found C8808, 8008-1, etc. Any insight or info about these chips and when Intel issued them would be appreciated.

If you would like to see a few photos of this rather unique micro, here are a couple:

http://www.solomonson.net/Intel/SIM8.01.More.jpg

http://www.solomonson.net/Intel/MP7.03.jpg

If you want to email me directly, the address is: craig@solomonson.net
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intel took a while to start marking date codes on chips.. and these are prior to that period

this thread will give you an idea when Intel started to mark chips, but it still took them a few years to get consistent Laughing

http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3890

nice 1702 Smile
if you have access to a microscope with a camera I would love a picture of the die

bet you wish you held on to those apple 1 boards for a bit longer now Laughing
what type of 6502 is on the SYM-1 ?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neon,

Thanks for the reply and the link. Sorry, but I do not have a microscope with a camera.

Yes, I wished that I had the Apple 1 back that sold on Christie's for $213,000. I sold it several years ago for $25,000 to a collector in California. He sold it on eBay a few years ago for $50,000 and then the collector in Italy bought it on Christies. However, I did just did get back the Apple 1 that I originally traded for the Christie's Apple 1, so I do have one hanging on the wall again!

Craig
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool vintage chips, Craig!

....and Welcome from another Midwestern member. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could put you in contact with someone in san fran who could image the 1702 and send back to ya
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