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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: Help Request: How to Remove SL5SN from Xbox Mobo? |
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Wondering if anyone has any tips on how to remove this! I'm not sure if it's soldered on, or if I just have to pry it off, hot air gun it off?
Thought I'd ask your opinions out there before I start chipping corners off and breaking everything by accident!
Thanx in advance. _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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jrmunro

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 3149 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| It is soldered on. I usually heat the board up from the back until the chip falls off. |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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What do you use to heat it up to the proper melting temperature?
I'd prefer not to burn the house down while I give my first shot at desoldering a go... _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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jrmunro

Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 3149 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The heat gun might work. Since I don`t have one I just use a propane torch. I just have the tip of the flame near the board and move it around to heat up the board.
I do it outside. |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a heat gun either, but I do have a propane torch!
I'll give it ago here tomorrow morning before work.
What could possibly go wrong?  _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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johnorun

Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 3364 Location: Chicago, IL- US
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Redeyeburn wrote: | I don't have a heat gun either, but I do have a propane torch!
What could possibly go wrong?  |
You could breath harmful and toxic fumes if you try this indoors!
I do all my de-soldering outdoors for this reason.  _________________ My collection list (growing) http://johnorun.x86-guide.com/en/collection.html |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| johnorun wrote: | | Redeyeburn wrote: | I don't have a heat gun either, but I do have a propane torch!
What could possibly go wrong?  |
You could breath harmful and toxic fumes if you try this indoors!
I do all my de-soldering outdoors for this reason.  |
Good call!
Fumes never even crossed my mind (being I've never done this before), and I'm not the only one in the house, outside it is.
One disaster avoided...now let's try and keep the fire thing under control  _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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kosmokrator

Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 4085 Location: Athens-GR
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Naaaahhhh The nasth Smell of the burning Pcb in the mornig!!!
do it out side please...And dont put very close the flame to the board to avoid burn the board and start smoking |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Success!
Good thing I did a few trial runs and did it outside like you guys said, before I tried it on the chips I was after, smoke & burning pcb till I got it figured out, but now it's good to go, works like a charm and fast.
So I went ahead and free'd up that SL4AD I had waiting on a board too.
My clothes stink something nasty from the smoke, but the house didn't burn down, and I have two new chip's to add to the collection...a good day in my books
Thanks everyone, would've been some trashed cpu's here without your help. _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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liudr

Joined: 15 Nov 2011 Posts: 58 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesome end result! I wish I had a torch. Just a wild thought: is there any putty that one can stick to the bottom side of the board to transfer heat to the cpu and stick a piece of sheet metal above the puddy to prevent the flame from burning the board? |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| liudr wrote: | | Awesome end result! I wish I had a torch. Just a wild thought: is there any putty that one can stick to the bottom side of the board to transfer heat to the cpu and stick a piece of sheet metal above the puddy to prevent the flame from burning the board? |
Thanks, I was happy with it too!
That seems like a damn good idea, I don't know of any, but I'm gonna do a little research on it, something like that would probably help keep from overheating the cpu and damaging it too when someone applies the flame for too long by accident (like the few test chips I had bubbling from over heating)
I was also wondering if anyone has ever used a short piece of steel tubing and heated it up on the back of a board to try and remove an Intel TT80502 type cpu from a board!!? _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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D.8080

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 1474 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Some people desolder all the components by putting the board on a heated metal pan.
Fumes are abundant, but the result is fast and really a kill!
And you get all the mercury and lead in your lungs
I don't recommend that at all. |
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Redeyeburn

Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 179 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| dume wrote: | Some people desolder all the components by putting the board on a heated metal pan.
Fumes are abundant, but the result is fast and really a kill!
And you get all the mercury and lead in your lungs
I don't recommend that at all. |
One way around that would be to set up a large fan, like a living room fan, by the hot plate to blow all the fumes away, and since it's quick, also hold your breath for a few seconds while doing it, and do it outside of course
Unless you have a gas mask
Always take precautions! _________________ Wanted: Grey trace Intel 4004 (mala), will give grey trace and white Microsystems International MIL MF8080, PM me if interested. |
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Robev

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 3693 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Redeyeburn wrote: | | Always take precautions! |
And make sure your Girlfriend does as well  _________________ The Older they are the Better they are. |
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