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kjkjk32
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Why did not anyone answer???
As a fan of the "CPU WORLD " I am hurt  |
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gshv
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Well, SSE4 consists of SSE4.1 and 4.2 instructions, so the current specs are correct when they state SSE4 support. I understand that it could be confusing for people that specifically look for SSE4.1 or SSE4.2 support. Perhaps, it should say about those two subsets somewhere, but I need to think about the best way to show it.
As for not responding earlier... I have a lot of stuff to work on, and I so not always have time to respond immediately. And, if I don't respond immediately, I may sometimes forget to respond at all. Like in this case 
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mavroxur
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't respond because I couldn't understand what you were asking, if anything at all, or just making a statement. |
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kjkjk32
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Confirmation from AMD that all of these commands are in processor FX-8350
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9985/1111xd.png
Why do not you mention the all sets of commands:
SSE4.1,
SSE4.2,
SSSE3
FMA4,
XOP
if you Write Features Write them all !
I'm sorry to say what you write down is very misleading
if you have mail i can sand you thid pdf
| Quote: | | Well, SSE4 consists of SSE4.1 and 4.2 instructions, so the current specs are correct when they state SSE4 support. |
Sorry this is misleading and wrong
There are processors with 4.1 or 4.2 or 4a and more...
( I do not need to guess)
you serious site! It should be noted accurately.
People who come here are not professionals .
( Why do I have to Write to AMD and AMD Tell me that your website is wrong? ) .
Even I turned to the forums and did not know what to tell me because your information is not Clear confusing
THE Information you write is not presented well, not full , Causes debate ,
Lost confidence in cpu - world
I know your site for three years , I thought he was professional,
fix it /
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kjkjk32
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: |
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pcpubay
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry but LOL |
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gshv
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It's impossible to write all features, supported by modern processors, in the specification tab. This will turn the specs page into mess, that not many people will understand, and it will definitely turn away those, who don't know much about processors. If you want to see all features then please see CPUID tab, which looks like this:
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?CPUID=21922
CPUID information will be added to FX-4300/6300/8300 pages in the near future.
SSE4 consists only from SSE4.1 and SSE4.2. If you click on the question mark next to SSE4 it will be explained to you (and it was always there). Processors with only SSE4.1 support have only SSE4.1 listed. There are no CPUs with just SSE4.2 support, without SSE4.1. I do not consider SSE4a to be a part of SSE4 instruction set.
FMA/FMA4 were not listed because they are subset of AVX extensions. Assuming that AMD and Intel came up with different FMA instructions, I think I should add those to the list. I will update the pages to specify what type of FMA instructions is supported, FMA, FMA4 or both. I will also add XOP instructions.
Gennadiy
| kjkjk32 wrote: | Confirmation from AMD that all of these commands are in processor FX-8350
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9985/1111xd.png
Why do not you mention the all sets of commands:
SSE4.1,
SSE4.2,
SSSE3
FMA4,
XOP
if you Write Features Write them all !
I'm sorry to say what you write down is very misleading
if you have mail i can sand you thid pdf
| Quote: | | Well, SSE4 consists of SSE4.1 and 4.2 instructions, so the current specs are correct when they state SSE4 support. |
Sorry this is misleading and wrong
There are processors with 4.1 or 4.2 or 4a and more...
( I do not need to guess)
you serious site! It should be noted accurately.
People who come here are not professionals .
( Why do I have to Write to AMD and AMD Tell me that your website is wrong? ) .
Even I turned to the forums and did not know what to tell me because your information is not Clear confusing
THE Information you write is not presented well, not full , Causes debate ,
Lost confidence in cpu - world
I know your site for three years , I thought he was professional,
fix it / |
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Robev
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| kjkjk32 wrote: | | Mistake not to address |
Quite an attitude problem you have there mate.
You need to learn to be courteous to the administrator of the site. 
you may get a better response if you learn some manners as well 
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kjkjk32
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| Quote: | | This will turn the specs page into mess |
Write another 5 words is not mess !
SSE4.1,
SSE4.2,
SSSE3
FMA4,
XOP
If you want to see all features then please see CPUID tab, which looks like this:
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/CPUID.pl?CPUID=21922
Here it comes on A10-5800K not fx-8350.
What is the relationship between A10-5800K not fx-8350 ?
How do I have to guess that the commands belong here?
It's a mess.
What is the relationship between the FM2 socket for AM3 +?
| Quote: | | Processors with only SSE4.1 support have only SSE4.1 listed. There are no CPUs with just SSE4.2 support |
How I should have guessed it?
Wrong again no CPU only with SSE4.1
( You shortens processes and makes mess )
Things are no clear and confusing
| Quote: | | I do not consider SSE4a to be a part of SSE4 instruction set. |
SSE4a it's orders in SSE4 on AMD processors
Processor commands must be clear by the manufacturer and not to enter politics.
What is it you are not familiar on SSE4A ?
There is no room here for personal idea .
Informs should be analytically
| Quote: | | FMA/FMA4 were not listed because they are subset of AVX extensions |
Again
Processor commands must be clear by the manufacturer and not to enter politics.
There is no room here for personal idea .
Some people say that SSE belong to one family forms should be analytically
Why register SSE and SSE2 and SSE3 and SSE4 and SSSE3
And SSE4A?
Just write only SSE.
Manufacturer states instruction set FMA/FMA4 no part from AVX
Why not write like the producer writes, why make things up?
How should I know what you mean?
You forget that you are writing for different levels of understanding.
You forget that you are writing for people who come from 200 different countries.
You shortens processes and puts personal politics
I really like your site!
But this time I paid a high price ! |
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kjkjk32
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| Quote: | | Quite an attitude problem you have there mate |
Again you're wrong I do not have " attitude "
you have " attitude " 
I turned here with problems and explain why I think that
You can take it and you can't take it .
I paid $ 1500 on a wrong Computer
Because of incorrect information .
Robev You want to pay me back?
Robev Stop cause conflict !
You just confusing and not contributing anything |
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Robev
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| kjkjk32 wrote: | | Quote: | | Quite an attitude problem you have there mate |
Again you're wrong I do not have " attitude "
you have " attitude "
I turned here with problems and explain why I think that
You can take it and you can't take it .
I paid $ 1500 on a wrong Computer
Because of incorrect information .
Robev You want to pay me back?
Robev Stop cause conflict !
You just confusing and not contributing anything |
Oh, I see, you made a mistake and everyone else gets blamed.
You would have done better to ask questions before you purchased rather than looking for a scapegoat after the fact
and you do need to learn some manners
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ayni
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Robev, just pay the guy - jeez...
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mavroxur
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jrmunro
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"I paid $ 1500 on a wrong Computer
Because of incorrect information ."
Blah f`n blah.
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